Ships & Modules

Hey I'm thinking I would like to do some longterm wandering, using WHs instead of jumpgates to see where the universe takes me. What might be a good ship choice for that? I guess I'd need a ship that would be prepared for anything: HiSec, LowSec, Null, fighting, running, exploring, salvaging, sitting docked while I trade my wares in some new system LOL....and still be cheap enough to lose without turning my pockets inside out. Race doesn't matter, I'll train for it if needed.

you'll need to narrow your focus some, 'wandering' covers a fair bit of ground. (i'm also unsure of just how much wormhole experience you may or may not have.)

if the intent is to get from 'a' to 'x' intact and wonder at the marvel of it all along the way; then i'd suggest a simple cov ops. it'll make scanning the 10th system in a difficult c5 loop much more bearable with the bonuses to scanning, the cov ops cloak to scoot out from under the hole camp of lokis and bubbles, and some ability to hang around and watch fireworks from time to time on those same camps.

if you run across something interesting along the way you can solo such as a c1-2 then grab a drake and run it with that.

the problem here is the vulnerability and lack of intel at any given point along the way that makes fitting a cloak near mandatory when in an unfamiliar wh and solo.

if you hope to consistently run sites/survive pvp between point a and x then dualboxing 2 accounts would be a much better way to go.

Sounds like an epic waste of time to me, but each to their own.
Cloaky T3 is your only option.

in order of quality for cloaky T3s:

Proteus--Loki-----Tengu----------------------------------------------------Legion

Myrmidon ... I think I'll examine that option more closely. Sounds like it might be a good choice. T3s are a little too much for me right now plus it'll be a drag to lose skills when it goes all pretty 'splosions. I can fly a cloaky Pilgrim but it seems a bit thin skinned for this use.

Ah perfect wandering... Why not try a falcon? It can wander and roam all it wants... not much esle. Recons are perfect for wandering, but they can not catch anything that bites, only escape it.

if you want to spend extended periods of time in WH without POS then i think amarr is the way to go
with a set of t1 laser crystals you never run out of ammo

but as said earlyer a cloak is mandatory for roaming in WH and you will run out of cargospace to put in loot every so often

drones are less usefull as the sleepers tend to eat those

Sounds cool

Ignore the haters, this game is about fun, and wandering can be fun for some people.

It really depends on what you want to do. If you want to be able to actually run sites in WH's, vs just transit through them etc.

As others have said, a cloak will be very useful. That being said a covert ops cloak is not mandatory. You can still get by without one, and even in a T3 the covert ops will gimp your DPS.

If you want to be able to solo WH's, and you have the isk, I'd go Tengu or Legion. The T3's have the benefit of big tank and lots of flexibility. You can fit for solo WH sites and still carry other T3 subsystems (covert ops, interdiction nullifier) in cargo if you end up in null for safe travel and so forth.

Outside of that, if "I" were going to do this, i'd take an Ishtar. An Ishtar can do high/low/null exploration. It can handle C1/C2 wormholes (yes you have to watch your drones but it can work). It can nullsec rat, and even handle some nullsec plexes. Plus being a drone boat you have many slots for non-combat modules.

Personally though, I would probably use WH's for transit and not bother running the sites. Ninja running WH's solo is a very dangerous affair. You are usually in someone elses space. You will have limited scouting ability. Dscan is only so good with no local and a cloaky hunter looking for you. But mostly, given the ship options, you will be looking at best, a C1-C2, maybe C3. Honestly IMO the risk of ninja running some C1-C2 sites isn't worth the potential payout. the lower WH's rely mostly on nanoribbon drops for their isk, and they are very random drops.

It all depends if you are doing this to pve or pvp, you cant be great at both.
Ran across the Gila in another thread and realized it might be a really nice choice if you want to pve.

[Gila, passive AB]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

Salvager I
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Garde II x5
Hammerhead II x10
Hobgoblin II x16
Vespa EC-600 x5
Berserker SW-900 x1
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x4

Cloaky/probe-y/pointy PvP Tengu (or Proteus, or Loki) is a good suggestion, although watch what you're doing with probes to avoid tipping your hand too far (even if you have such a fancy ship, D-Scan is still your friend). I will say that the tag-along covops is optional (depends on what sites you want to run, also it'll have to be a Cheetah or Anathema due to the Buzzard and Helios only having 2 high slots).

As to the "jam everything into a MWD/cloaky Orca approach", it's riskier because you are putting WAY more mass on WHs (~250mil KG for the Orca as opposed to <10mil KG for Cheetah+Tengu).

Wow, are you sure this is enough for a C1 site ? Two guardians would be a bare minimum to maintain the cap chain. A suicide triage carrier may also work, but you'll have to build it inside the WH.
Don't forget to have another alt in a falcon, just in case.