EVE New Citizens Q&A

Okay so....

Tech levels only apply to ships and equipment. Missions are a little bit more linear and can be completed by any ship type that is capable of them.
The general rule of thumb is this...

Level 1 missions: Frigate/Destroyer
Level 2: Destroyer/Cruiser
Level 3: Cruiser/Battlecruiser
Level 4: Battleships
Level 5: Multiple Battleships

The only way to gain access to higher level missions is by running the lower levels until you have enough standing with the NPC corporation.
You will be able to see the Agent levels and whether or not they are available on the stations screen.


As far as cost is concerned...

Understand that in EVE higher level equipment will only give a linear power increase at an exponentially higher price. So do not expect the capabilities of your ship to drastically increase with Tech 2 equipment.

That said... higher level skills and better equipment will add up over time. Take it slow and learn about the systems you are getting yourself into (while having fun at the same time).


Hopefully this helps.

Level 1 - 2 missions don't pay very well, but once you get into level 3 and particularly level 4 missions you will notice a significant increase in income.

If you find missions a bit boring, you could move into exploration and combat sites... you still get to kill NPC rats but there is the chance of expensive faction loot at the end. Income is maybe not as consistent but I find the chance based income to be more exciting.

Please. NEVER ever post again.

Shah's answer is perfectly fine, yours is just stupid.


You, first claim that Shah is wrong that you don't need to start at lower end missions. Then you waste anybodies time to show they have to do the career agents and then the career agents in order. Which is EXACTLY what shah said.

Your stupid suggestion, you start at a low end career agent and then move along towards career agents which you take on from lowest to highest...


How weird, that is exactly what Shah said.

Let me guess, you are the person who sells the tags overpriced.
Or you lack any form of reading what is said.
Or both.

What ever you do, please turn...and never come back to the forum unless you have something to add to it.

Well, they are just missions and of lower class.

Shah never mentioned he just meant normal missions or what so ever...he kept it general...with missions. Which can be ANY kind.

P.s. In the time it would take to do your idea, a new player could have trained some social skills and done a handful of L1 and L2 missions and already have access to L3. L4 after that isn't too far too if you are doing L3.

And you don't even have to spent ISK on tags or do the "boring" career agents yet again.

Luckily you don't post often, it's a good thing.

No.

It may be an inefficient way for a veteran player, but it is exactly how a new player should unlock missions. Really, you are going to suggest a brand new player should run the tutorials six times? If any new player makes it through that and actually subscribes I will give them my Bhaalgorn*...

Not to mention that they won't have the appropriate skills to run level 4s anyway, which you concede in your post. So I'm not sure why you would recommend a boring grindy process to unlock missions they have no business doing. They'll just lose their ship immediately, having no idea what to expect out of a level 4 mission without ever doing level 2s and 3s. It's much better for a new player to follow the progression from 1-4 which gives them time to skill up and gain experience.

Sure...you are technically correct that it's the fastest way to get to level 4s. Is it what the OP should do? No.


The appropriate skills are "social" and "connections"



*I will not be giving out a Bhaalgorn. Please do not run the tutorials six times on my account.

So...


What you are showing is that you are great at:

Copy pasting stuff from Google.


And that you have 0 idea still what you are talking about.


A. A new player doesn't need instant L4 access.
B. A new player certainly does not need instant L4 access to an entire faction.

Hell, tell me how many people do mission running from more then 1 agent / 1 NPC corp?

p.s. I know nothing about you. Which isn't too weird for somebody not worth knowing something about, isn't that weird.

@Cara Forelli:

I do expect you to contract me that Bhaalgorn* because that's exactly how i unlocked the L4's and did them when I was around three weeks old into the game(and surprise I subbed and I'm still subbed). Anyway, jokes apart, if you're asking me if that is what I would recommend a new player to do when he starts playing Eve the answers is: no.

The long answer would be:

Make up( new player looking at you) your mind on what you want to do in Eve. I'm not talking about specifics: mining,missions,exploration, pvp, etc. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and consider you a decent (and intelligent) human being. My question will be : do you want(like) to mess around with other people, play alone(this doesn't exclude players interactions), play with others etc. ? Once you have that figured it out do your "homework" and research the game-mechanics(by reading, by asking - whatever method you prefer but make sure you test things on your own too because some information might be outdated or some people giving you advice might be wrong) that allows you to achieve your "objectives". Don't ever ask for fits(with the exceptions of comparing them with your own). If you do that it means you have no idea how the game works and you'll most probably never learn by continuing to do that.

But, I digress. My first post in this topic, needs to be read in the context it was written. Take it out of context and it may sound ********(like most things out of context I might add). That was my specific answer to both a new player complaining how little isk he makes from missions and what appears(appeared) to be an old player replying that the only way to get L4 is grinding normal missions.

You can agree or disagree with that(your choice). I'm glad that you agreed that technically that's the fastest way(hence me bothering to make a decent reply) and at the same time I do agree that's not the most exciting start of a game(that's why I said it's boring, but please don't try to argue that normal missions are exciting or anything like that).

I will repeat now, for the record, the important part of that post:

And obligatory Eve comment: don't lose too much time with grinding missions. Make/get some friends and go explore the universe. That's the only thing that makes Eve feel unique. Just saying ...

@JPoll:

Hmmm. Sorry dude, I had to do it. You're posts are blocked from now on. I can't argue with you. You won( you managed to do the impossible and trained that skilled that doesn't have a name to level VI, yeah 6 - it's not a typo).

Funny part.

You were the only one that read that running lower level missions = running normal missions

And then show another way to do just another type of lower level mission to get there.



But heh, a person blocked me on the forum. Argh, I might aswel unsub now.

Ooh wait, it doesn't matter. I don't give a flying **** about what some "unknown" person thinks...So...bye...I guess.

Thank you all for your answers :)

But is it always like this in the forums everyone hating each other :P