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Mali Talvanen
#1 - 2014-12-16 01:40:23 UTC
I am killing incursion rats in belts, but getting absolutely nothing for it. No loot, no bonuses, is it normal?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-12-16 01:45:20 UTC
Yes

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Ishen Villone
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-12-16 02:20:13 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
I am killing incursion rats in belts, but getting absolutely nothing for it. No loot, no bonuses, is it normal?


I suggest you stop, then.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#4 - 2014-12-16 02:32:29 UTC
Some of the incursion rats will only show up on your PVP overview settings, those ones have worse AI but much better loot. CONCORD defends them in highsec, but ganking them can still be profitable...

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Mali Talvanen
#5 - 2014-12-16 02:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Mali Talvanen
well, so far I killed 6 rats and only got some trash salvaging, less than i get from normal rats. I thought those incursion rats were supposed to give more loot or something as they are harder to kill

Not sure what do you mean, that they show only on PVP settings?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-12-16 02:41:49 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Some of the incursion rats will only show up on your PVP overview settings, those ones have worse AI but much better loot. CONCORD defends them in highsec, but ganking them can still be profitable...

They have occasionally been known to run missions aswell, like anomalys these requirements the use of probes to find but they have great loot drops,
though they do have fairly squirrely ai so will require either ganking or nuanced aggressive tactics to bring down.

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Mali Talvanen
#7 - 2014-12-16 02:44:22 UTC
idk, those that attack me I see them all on my radar
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#8 - 2014-12-16 02:58:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Some of the incursion rats will only show up on your PVP overview settings, those ones have worse AI but much better loot. CONCORD defends them in highsec, but ganking them can still be profitable...

They have occasionally been known to run missions aswell, like anomalys these requirements the use of probes to find but they have great loot drops,
though they do have fairly squirrely ai so will require either ganking or nuanced aggressive tactics to bring down.

Have you seen those at the gates?
These must be the literally dumbest rats ever.
They warp to 15 to the gate and then slowboat towards it,
as if they WANT to get killed! That's some stupid AI, really.......

(I feel kind of sorry for the OP :/ OP, you should check your journal, loyalty points...)

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-12-16 03:00:13 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
idk, those that attack me I see them all on my radar


Just to clarify my sarcasm, I'm referring to player incursion runners. You can shoot those and steal their stuff, but there are consequences. If you can mitigate those, you can make serious isk.

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Mali Talvanen
#10 - 2014-12-16 03:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Mali Talvanen
Sol Project
Ty, didn't know about Loyalty points. No need to feel sorry for me it is fun anyway. No I haven't seen any at the gates, but in one belt there had been kind of fleet of them with one big ship and 3 smaller ones, that killed all my t2 drones and almost destroyed my ship. If those are what you mean mission ones.

Sabriz Adoudel
Missed the sarcasm lol as I am not English speaking. And I wouldn't dream of shooting any players, especially in High Sec.

But my original question was, why there is no loot of them or any kind of bonus. but if they give loyalty points it is ok then


Just checked no loyalty points either
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#11 - 2014-12-16 03:12:01 UTC
Thats odd, these rats should give CONCORD LP...

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2014-12-16 03:12:04 UTC
I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to missionrunners

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Mali Talvanen
#13 - 2014-12-16 03:14:32 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Thats odd, these rats should give CONCORD LP...

That was what I was driving at originally. Seems to me like some kind of bug, if it was not intended that way
Mali Talvanen
#14 - 2014-12-16 03:15:40 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners

Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#15 - 2014-12-16 03:19:25 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners

Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players

No idea what they are talking about, but I can guarantee you that at the gates
there are tons of capsule NPCs who want to get shot at.

Daily. Hourly. Every minute!

That being said... can you tell us the names of the rats?
I feel like they should give LP...

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

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Mali Talvanen
#16 - 2014-12-16 03:21:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mali Talvanen
Sol Project wrote:
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners

Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players

No idea what they are talking about, but I can guarantee you that at the gates
there are tons of capsule NPCs who want to get shot at.

Daily. Hourly. Every minute!

That being said... can you tell us the names of the rats?
I feel like they should give LP...


Hmm, not sure if i remember them, sansha rats in Trigentia, Sonama. Sansha Vanguard
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#17 - 2014-12-16 03:31:41 UTC
Mali Talvanen wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I should probably clarify then that i was also being sarcastic and referring to mission runners

Well, thank you, didn't understand that was sarcasm as well. thought you were saying that incursion rats behaviour resembles that of the players



I was saying that the rats have better AI.

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Mali Talvanen
#18 - 2014-12-16 03:35:34 UTC
When you kill incursion rats, shouldn't you get log of it in the journal?
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-12-16 03:39:53 UTC
Shooting incursion rats outside of incursion anomalies is entirely pointless. They are there to inconvenience people (no mining, no mission running etc etc ) because an incursion is bad and in fact not a fancy battleship owners club meeting, where the ISK flows better than the champagne and the blood.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#20 - 2014-12-16 03:41:44 UTC
I remember shooting incursion belt rats and they gave LP....
... a few years ago, though.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
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