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Today's Lessons

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#41 - 2014-12-08 17:36:19 UTC
Sere O'Asis wrote:
I just wish this could be posted in New Citizens as well. It might open some eyes to the possibilities in this game.

Bronson, would you consider doing a post for New Citizens?

When I was a new citizen all I ever read about in New Citizens Q & A was missions and mining.

Consider saving a few souls!


I believe I may. I must first settle arrangements to repair my sullied E-honor with another pilot first....

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Bronson Hughes
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#42 - 2014-12-15 17:11:24 UTC
Lesson 22: The EvE forums are as much a part of the game as the game itself. A recent bit of forum warrioring on my part landed me, in addition to some outstanding comedy posts, a legit, fair, honest 1v1 fight, which I happened to win. That 1v1 has led to another pending 1v1, and rumors of a Thunderdome-style series of C&P grudge matches forming.

EvE-O forums: putting one of the 'M's in MMORPG since 2004-ish.

Lesson 23: Legit, fair, honest 1v1 fights do exist in EvE. They just may require some legwork to make happen.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-12-15 17:30:07 UTC
They usually require the involved parties to have prior knowledge of each others reputations and mutual respect for said reputations.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#44 - 2014-12-16 12:21:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Lesson 24: Having access to industry and research capabilities is quite useful. Yesterday I popped a small collection of offline industry and lab arrays that belong to a seemingly dead corp. Typically when this happens all I get is killmails, but this time I got something...else. Each array dropped a sizeable chunk of loot, and in the end I made off with over 120 million ISK in research & production goods and a few BPOs, plus a very large assortment of BPCs, including some T2 PBCs, that I can't even begin to estimate the value of. Score!

I looked into the value of the T2 BPCs for a quick sale, and realized that I had everything necessary to use said BPCs. I logged on my industry alt and realized that I could easily double my take by producing the T2 items in question instead of selling the materials and BPCs.

Sometimes, it is better to create than to destroy....

Lesson 25: Hull tanking faction cruisers is surprisingly affordable. One of the major downsides of hull tanking is that hull reppers are notoriously slow and paying to repair a badly damaged hull in a station can often be quite expensive. After a 1v1 fight in my VNI last night, I found myself at 16% structure and hobbled off to a local station to repair myself. The bill to almost completely rebuild my 70 million ISK VNI plus several of my drones was under 1 million ISK.

Of course, the other side of this is that my insurance payout will be minimal. Guess I'd best not lose it then....

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Bronson Hughes
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#45 - 2014-12-23 18:34:37 UTC
Lesson 26: Target Management is is a skill for both characters and players to master. I was recently transiting a losec loop and suspected that I was being run into a trap at the hisec exit. Instead of logging off or hiding, I ran towards the trap figuring that I'd likely have some fun either way.

I was flying a PvP-fit Vexor Navy Issue, and upon jumping in I saw a Prophecy, a Rupture, and an Ashimmu on the gate, with two more from the same corp in local. I didn't like the odds, so I decided to try running. As I'm about halfway through my align, I see a warp scramble notification and prepare for the worst. Yet, somehow, I warped anyways.

It turns out that one of their pilots had warp scrambled...one of their other pilots.

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Azov Rassau
Iron Destiny
#46 - 2014-12-23 18:46:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Azov Rassau
Bronson Hughes wrote:
It turns out that one of their pilots had warp scrambled...one of their other pilots.

Bad Overview is bad. P

I wonder how their comms sounded like at that moment. Lol

Be the change you want to see in Highsec.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#47 - 2014-12-23 18:57:23 UTC
Azov Rassau wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
It turns out that one of their pilots had warp scrambled...one of their other pilots.

Bad Overview is bad. P

I wonder how their comms sounded like at that moment. Lol

It's also possible that they had each other pre-locked for remote repping. Either way, they needed to manage their targets more effectively. I would have enjoyed the fight, even though I almost certainly would have lost, but I enjoyed getting a chuckle at their expense more.

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Azov Rassau
Iron Destiny
#48 - 2014-12-23 20:47:18 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Azov Rassau wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
It turns out that one of their pilots had warp scrambled...one of their other pilots.

Bad Overview is bad. P

I wonder how their comms sounded like at that moment. Lol

It's also possible that they had each other pre-locked for remote repping.

Oh that accident happens quite often I think… While doing some cloaky logistics, I remember seeing this spider tanking Vexor gang who were repping each other at the Sahda gate in Shajarleg, waiting for hostiles. Once the several hostile BCs jumped in and appeared on grid, one of the on-screen notifications were announcing a Vexor scrambling another Vexor of the same corp… Roll

The Vexors had won the battle in the end, but also they had certainly learned a lesson about target management. Actually, you learn something new in Amarr lowsec everyday. It's a truly entertaining area and I hope to get back there once RL leaves some time for those shenanigans… and maybe I will see those Vexors scrambling each other again, who knows. Smile

Be the change you want to see in Highsec.

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Bronson Hughes
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#49 - 2014-12-27 16:07:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Lesson 27: When repping your POS, the time to online the defensive modules you've already repaired is before the gank Talos lands on grid and starts shooting at your suspect logibros. In a near throwback to Lesson 1, today I found a POS being repped by several suspect ships sitting stationary just outside the POS shield. Unlike Lesson 1, this POS was in losec which presented the very real possibility of being retaliated against when I chose to engage said suspect logibros.

Unfortunately for the POS owners, they had neglected to put any of the defensive modules back online, so their POS was largely defenseless*. I was free to engage targets at will for at least as long as it took to get their first Warp Disruption Battery online. I figured that, at best, I may get one of them.

Unfortunately for me these folks were flying Guardians and were awake at the keyboard (unlike the T1 logibros of Lesson 1), so they got inside the shield before I could kill any of them. T2 Logi cruisers are tough nuts to crack.

No kills generated, no losses sustained, but some fun was had and some friendly smack was talked after I made good my escape. Good times.


*Defenseless...except for those three carriers. Yeah, this was a bit ballsier move than the Lesson 1 gambit, but more fun. Such is EvE.

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Bronson Hughes
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#50 - 2014-12-27 22:22:53 UTC
Lesson 28: Sometimes the best part about knowing it's a trap is springing it. I had cloaked eyes on the hisec exit gate for a losec loop, and sitting on gate was a Cynabal. A few dozen km off was an Osprey, and somewhere in local was someone from the same corp as the ships I could see. Looking for a fight, I decided to spring the trap.

I jumped in my now well-tested Vexor Navy Issue and immediately approach the Cynabal. A Rapier decloaks and all three aggress me. I manage to get hard tackle on the Cynabal and neut him down so he's trapped. The rapier has me webbed, but keeps about 40km off so he can't tackle me. As my shield and armor melt away, the Cynabal's shields are dropping far too slowly for my liking. As I suspected, the Osprey is remote repping him. By the time I hit structure, the Cynabal's shields are only at half. Not good.

Then, the tides turn. I see my drones start to take damage and realize that they must have shifted DPS. My structure HP holds for a bit, and the Cynabal suddenly drops like a stone. I don't know if the Osprey ran out of cap, flew out of range, or something else entirely, but I managed out-DPS it's reps. The Cynabal dies quickly without remote reps under heavy drone and gate gun fire and without anyone else tackling me, I warp away at 20% structure.

This was a 3-on-1 fight with hostile logistics on the field. By all rights, I should have lost. The next time I try it, I most likely will. But this time...this time I didn't...and that's the best part about springing a trap.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-12-28 06:03:04 UTC
Damn Vex.Big smile

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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#52 - 2014-12-30 02:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Jerr
Lesson 29: when you pve in lowsec doing an expedition, checking regularly DScan to finally see combat probes and a certain number of people in local, quit your activity and warpoff to your safe... BUT DON'T WARP BACK to the expedition gate... Because you know the team which is ready to kill you hasn't lost its scan location of your activity like by magic you know...in case of you just forgot this fact Lol I don't really know why I did something so stupid Roll
It was a fight between my logi vs Orthrus, a heavy interdictor and a Command ship, damn good first PVP ShockedBig smileOopsOops
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-12-30 02:53:50 UTC
Karl Jerr wrote:
Lesson 29: when you pve in lowsec doing an expedition, checking regularly DScan to finally see combat probes and a certain number of people in local, quit your activity and warpoff to your safe... BUT DON'T WARP BACK to the expedition gate... Because you know the team which is ready to kill you hasn't lost its scan location of your activity like by magic you know...in case of you just forgot this fact Lol I don't really know why I did something so stupid Roll
It was a fight between my logi vs Orthrus, a heavy interdictor and a Command ship, damn good first PVP ShockedBig smileOopsOops


First PvP? Gratz to you for taking the loss onn the chin and still having fun. This game takes on a whole new meaning once you realize that shooting red crosses is only a means to an end!

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Karl Jerr
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#54 - 2014-12-30 03:18:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Jerr
Leto Thule wrote:

First PvP? Gratz to you for taking the loss onn the chin and still having fun. This game takes on a whole new meaning once you realize that shooting red crosses is only a means to an end!

Hey thank you! Yes, it was the first time that I finally had a fight with other players, living in lowsec it was only a matter of time before it happens.
And yes it was fun, I had some "internal vibrations" even if my options were limited by the time. But I finally launched my warriors against the Orthrus; after all it's better to die fighting than doing nothing. And don't laugh but I was happy to put a single dent in its shield PirateBig smileBig smile.
You are right it isn't comparable at all with shooting crosses, that was really tense and fun.
I saved my main's ship and the pod of my alt, I consider myself lucky. The pod really warp off like an arrow if you align it before to be exploded, I could effectively test it this time haha.
Of course at the end I put the obligatory "gf" in local and had a little chat with the guys, that was cool Bear
The loss is OK, it's just my stupidity to warp back, but anyway like one of the "ebil" pirate said; "**** happens"
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#55 - 2014-12-30 11:08:06 UTC
Karl Jerr wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:

First PvP? Gratz to you for taking the loss onn the chin and still having fun. This game takes on a whole new meaning once you realize that shooting red crosses is only a means to an end!

Hey thank you! Yes, it was the first time that I finally had a fight with other players, living in lowsec it was only a matter of time before it happens.
And yes it was fun, I had some "internal vibrations" even if my options were limited by the time. But I finally launched my warriors against the Orthrus; after all it's better to die fighting than doing nothing. And don't laugh but I was happy to put a single dent in its shield PirateBig smileBig smile.
You are right it isn't comparable at all with shooting crosses, that was really tense and fun.
I saved my main's ship and the pod of my alt, I consider myself lucky. The pod really warp off like an arrow if you align it before to be exploded, I could effectively test it this time haha.
Of course at the end I put the obligatory "gf" in local and had a little chat with the guys, that was cool Bear
The loss is OK, it's just my stupidity to warp back, but anyway like one of the "ebil" pirate said; "**** happens"

You, sir, will go far in EvE with an attitude like that. Props to you for your handling of the situation and your overall outlook on the encounter.

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Jerry T Pepridge
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#56 - 2014-12-30 11:34:23 UTC
nice thread mate, finally got around to reading it.

Vex is sex laterly, mind linking fit?

@JerryTPepridge

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#57 - 2014-12-30 15:08:09 UTC
I use a hull-tanked Navy Vexor. I talk about the fit and the theory behind it here.

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Karl Jerr
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#58 - 2014-12-30 16:43:21 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:

You, sir, will go far in EvE with an attitude like that. Props to you for your handling of the situation and your overall outlook on the encounter.

Thanks!
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#59 - 2015-01-04 19:35:02 UTC
Lesson 29: Google Translate is your friend. Today I ran across a group of Russians working a system-wide hisec POCO-repping op. 6-ish POCOs were all coming out of reinforced within two-ish hours. Given that I had assets nearby, I decided to play some games. Cloaking games, sniping games, ganking games, etc. Good stuff.

Very quickly, the talk in local started...in Russian. Being the curious sort that I am, and given that there were far more of them than there was of me, I loaded up Google Translate, figured out roughly what they were saying, and started engaging some of them in what would closely approximate a conversation.

It was fun (both the chatting and the fighting) but they were rather smart in that they had non-suspect Orcas that they could use to store their suspect logi cruisers in in the event of an attack. I scored no kills (although I did nearly gank one Scythe Lesson 1 style) and suffered no losses (I switched back to Naga sniping after I saw them store a few T3s), and all involved seemed to have a good time.

по-русски.

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Bronson Hughes
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#60 - 2015-01-04 21:01:17 UTC
Lesson 30: Always have the right tool for the job. Thinking back to Lesson 29 above, I realized (in hindsight, of course) that I had focused my efforts to pop a few suspect Logis entirely on range or DPS. I didn't have a fast-locking Arty Tornado handy (and I have good skills for one), but if I had, I likely could have alpha'd one or two of their cruisers off of the field instead of just scaring the crap out of them.

Right then, off to go shopping....

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