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Cloaked Structures Research and Compilation
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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2014-12-14 17:01:59 UTC
Damn, Metro is loaded with em.
Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-12-15 03:56:50 UTC
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
just a quick update , noticed unusual behavior today i'm in the Lirerim system where a structure is located .

decided to put some salvaged sleeper material in my hold , to see if i would get a reaction.
today there were 4 sleepers it has always been 5 for over a week now . why 4 now?

length of time. today they spent 20-25 mins scanning the structure , beacon and me. they have never spent that long scanning before. again why?

they spent most of the time scanning structure i also noticed the structure is emitting a lot more electrical discharge than before.

i am spending time there mining so i can keep a close eye on the happenings in the area , they will come to the asteroid fields to scan rocks but they have never scanned me , i am in a barge so i may not be a threat , even when the angel rats attack me and my drones attack the rats , no reaction from sleepers . rats and drones are not scanned.

i had no reaction than normal scanning even with sleeper materials in my cargo hold.
can anyone else confirm any changes at other structures?

update 4 sleepers just warped in to asteroid field , first thing they did was scan my mining drones this has not happened before


The update you made made me think of something. Do you think they're also scanning (see monitoring) Galnet? Would we even have a way to track that to find out? It doesn't seem to be outside the realm of possibility for them to also take an interest in our infrastructure, though it would probably be a different entity than the sleepers doing the scanning of our ships, gates, etc.
per
Terpene Conglomerate
#43 - 2014-12-15 11:20:21 UTC
today i came back to system where the unknown structure was and now its gone, seems like its cloaking is working again(no more disrupted by the supernova event?) or the structure moved? don't really know what to think about it
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#44 - 2014-12-15 22:07:44 UTC
There's a large dustcloud outside the Amarr Capital station and central Trade hub.... Possibly related? Has anyone seen Seekers in the system?
Anslo
Scope Works
#45 - 2014-12-15 22:11:05 UTC
Momiji Sakora wrote:
There's a large dustcloud outside the Amarr Capital station and central Trade hub.... Possibly related? Has anyone seen Seekers in the system?

Those have always been there.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#46 - 2014-12-17 10:57:05 UTC
Having lived in Amarr, in particular the main tradehub there, for the past year, and having only been out of system for a week, I have never noticed this dustcloud. Nor have others, is it just more effervescent of late? Or is my new ship's sensors just making it more visible?
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#47 - 2014-12-17 15:14:28 UTC
My crew and I investigated one of these structures in Oicx several hours ago. Consistent with reports previously made here, the structure was partially cloaked and displaying a "lightning storm in space" phenomenon. My sensors were able to confirm a target lock but not further identify the structure. My impression was of a shape vaguely Talocan in nature. Firing weapons, as reported previously, registered no damage.

I was able to activate an Energy Nosferatu module on the target. Analysis of my logs is indeterminate on whether any capacitor was drained from the structure, or my capacitor was recharging at its natural rate. Still, of the ability of the module to function at all is any indication, this avenue bears further investigation.

No doubt these structures have simply vast power generation capabilities, but perhaps energy neuts of enough concentration could disrupt their systems?
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#48 - 2014-12-17 16:52:29 UTC
I would like to propose a symposium and public conference to get together all of our findings, and discuss further avenues of research and what we know already. At this present moment I am monitoring and contributing to several discussions here in the Summit, and I feel it's about time we brought this all together, all of the research gathered, and see what we can make of it.
Kinthras
Tequila Sunrise Enterprises
#49 - 2014-12-18 05:23:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinthras
Momiji Sakora wrote:
I would like to propose a symposium and public conference to get together all of our findings, and discuss further avenues of research and what we know already. At this present moment I am monitoring and contributing to several discussions here in the Summit, and I feel it's about time we brought this all together, all of the research gathered, and see what we can make of it.


Then please contribute to this Database and cartograph the regions you have access to for unindentified structures. Any help is welcome.

We are getting reports of structures disappearing and reappearing in the same spot. Their cloak seems to malfunction or "fluctuate" in some yet unknown manner.

Jove Observatory location project: Datafile
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#50 - 2014-12-18 07:25:03 UTC
Kinthras wrote:
We are getting reports of structures disappearing and reappearing in the same spot. Their cloak seems to malfunction or "fluctuate" in some yet unknown manner.

Has anyone tried to bookmark an existing structure and warp to the bookmark when structure disappears?

I regulary pass by 2 of those things, and after hearing they might disappear, I booked them intending to look if anything left after that happens, but so far they are sitting there for over a week without any incidents.
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#51 - 2014-12-18 10:01:04 UTC
Kinthras wrote:
Momiji Sakora wrote:
I would like to propose a symposium and public conference to get together all of our findings, and discuss further avenues of research and what we know already. At this present moment I am monitoring and contributing to several discussions here in the Summit, and I feel it's about time we brought this all together, all of the research gathered, and see what we can make of it.


Then please contribute to this Database and cartograph the regions you have access to for unindentified structures. Any help is welcome.

We are getting reports of structures disappearing and reappearing in the same spot. Their cloak seems to malfunction or "fluctuate" in some yet unknown manner.


I have actually been contributing to both this, and another - however what we haven't looked at or gathered is the times and order of which they were discovered - what distances they were from suns and the nearest other celestial object, and if there were seeker sightings or not - So far two systems I've located and reported have had these, Ghost Towers (IF you will) appear within 0.5-0.6au of the orbiting sun.

What would be interesting, would be to know what sun type they're in orbit of - what number of planets, what similarities (if any) there are. Or will we find that there is one per constellation? Or heavens forbid, one in every system.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#52 - 2014-12-18 17:19:27 UTC
has anyone timed the duration that the objects stay visible to our scanners? Do we have an average, aproximite length of time between when they show up and when they vanish and vis versa?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Captain Davison
Malachi Keep Detachments
#53 - 2014-12-18 17:19:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Davison
The one in Andrub has been gone for two days now. The Circadian Sleepers left with it.

Oddly, all the pirate activity in the system was gone when it was there. Do they know something we don't, or did the sleeper cruisers wipe them all out? Now that the sleepers are gone, the pirate activity is back, but that was pretty odd. Also, Wormhole activity seems to have died down in the system, adding to that potential link to Wormholes these things seem to have.

Claudia Osyn wrote:
has anyone timed the duration that the objects stay visible to our scanners? Do we have an average, aproximite length of time between when they show up and when they vanish and vis versa?


The one in Andrub was active from the 9th to the 15th or 16th.
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#54 - 2014-12-18 17:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Torgeir Hekard
Okay, the one in Weraroix, Solitude, just disappeared no more than a few hours ago after about a week.
I had it bookmarked, and now it's only empty space here. No structure, no dust cloud. I tried flying around thinking maybe I'd bump into some invisible wall, but no luck so far. So it's not just invisible, it's not here at all. Which is no small feat for a station-size structure if you ask me.

EDIT: Same for Odinesyn
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#55 - 2014-12-18 17:37:06 UTC
I ran a quick filter on just the known location system stars in Esoteria. Of the 15 currently known structure locations, the solar systems had 7 different star types.

"6","Sun G5 (Yellow)"
"8","Sun K5 (Red Giant)"
"3797","Sun G5 (Pink)"
"3799","Sun G3 (Pink Small)"
"3800","Sun M0 (Orange radiant)"
"3801","Sun A0 (Blue Small)"
"3802","Sun K3 (Yellow Small)"

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Anslo
Scope Works
#56 - 2014-12-18 17:42:14 UTC
How many at A0 types.

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Kinthras
Tequila Sunrise Enterprises
#57 - 2014-12-22 20:19:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinthras
Momiji Sakora wrote:
...what we haven't looked at or gathered is the times and order of which they were discovered - what distances they were from suns and the nearest other celestial object, and if there were seeker sightings or not - So far two systems I've located and reported have had these, Ghost Towers (IF you will) appear within 0.5-0.6au of the orbiting sun.

What would be interesting, would be to know what sun type they're in orbit of - what number of planets, what similarities (if any) there are. Or will we find that there is one per constellation? Or heavens forbid, one in every system.

I have scouted 11 regions so far, the Structures are always some 350.000~ish km off an orbital body. Be it a gate, a station or a planet.

Today I noticed the Circadian Sleepers align to the Structures before warping off (towards them). It could be possible the Unindentified Structures are their base of operation, maybe they were here all along and did actually not come out of wormholes just recently.

The Structures are not bound to a specific type of star.

Jove Observatory location project: Datafile
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-12-22 21:20:58 UTC
Torgeir Hekard wrote:
Kinthras wrote:
We are getting reports of structures disappearing and reappearing in the same spot. Their cloak seems to malfunction or "fluctuate" in some yet unknown manner.

Has anyone tried to bookmark an existing structure and warp to the bookmark when structure disappears?

I regulary pass by 2 of those things, and after hearing they might disappear, I booked them intending to look if anything left after that happens, but so far they are sitting there for over a week without any incidents.


Tried it, and they're actually completely invisible, cloud and all.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#59 - 2014-12-22 21:26:31 UTC
So, would it be possible to get eyes on one of these structures 24/7 to see what happens when they disappear?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#60 - 2014-12-22 21:30:37 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
So, would it be possible to get eyes on one of these structures 24/7 to see what happens when they disappear?


I am nearly there 24/7, and it only seems to happen when nobody's near it, this is as of yet unconfirmed, but I am still observing them with the rest of my team.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.