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Missing a digit on single item sell order - huge undersell

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Steve Atreides
Phoenix Interstellar Enterprises
#1 - 2014-12-13 21:47:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Atreides
Ok, had a look but couldnt find anything on this. Recently spent six weeks on and off grinding SOE missions for a Nestor which I built myself from BPC, took it for a little test run to see if I liked or would be likely to use it and decided to sell (was my original intent).

The regional Sell orders were from 1.3 billion upwards and Buy orders around 800 million. My eyes played tricks on me, I put in a sell order and thought I typed 1.29 Billion but missed a digit and without any warning the item disappeared for 1.29 million

I petitioned asking where was the normal market warning when placing sell orders under 50% and was told that is only for multiple items and not single items. now hang on, there is a warning if I sell two or more 100k isk items that I may be underselling but if I sell a 1.3 billion ship for 1.29 million there is no warning and the item is gone foroever.

To me this is clearly a broken game mechanic and needs to be fixed. I know someone else did the same thing with a carrier.

Anyway, fed up with this and the waste of 6 weeks of my time and both my subs have been cancelled. Would be nice to fix something so elementary...unless CCP, hugely underselling big ticket items by mistake is a intended game play mechanic and seen as a result for the person that gets the low value order.

Well the result is Minus my £240 a year. Cogratulations.
Cista2
EVE Museum
#2 - 2014-12-13 22:10:09 UTC
Sorry for your loss. I did something similar this autumn and lost 120 mil.

My view on the matter is that the warnings are there to help us. They are not a "gameplay mechanic" as such, the gameplay mechanic is us putting up the orders.

It is our own responsibility what we do. I am grateful in those cases where the warnings take effect - I do not expect them to always save me.

My channel: "Signatures" -

Artemis Scat
Thebes Guild
#3 - 2014-12-13 22:42:25 UTC
Im going to go ahead and point out that you would have had to miss 3 digits in order to sell for that much under the original price. 1 digit could be just a mistype. 3 is just negligence on your part to look at the value you were selling for. Don't be so hasty next time and don't try to blame it on the game.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2014-12-13 22:56:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Take responsibility for your actions instead of blaming them on something or someone else. The game becomes a lot more fun if you operate in this fashion.

If you get past your whiny anger and start playing again, just learn to hit tab after you enter the amount so that it adds the commas then you only have to count them instead of the zeros.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Cista2
EVE Museum
#5 - 2014-12-13 23:13:41 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
learn to hit tab after you enter the amount so that it adds the commas then you only have to count them instead of the zeros.

Can also let the mouse pointer rest on "OK" for a brief moment - this will also add the commas.
If I am in doubt I always do that - and if I have made a mistake, just let the pointer slide off and retype.

My channel: "Signatures" -

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#6 - 2014-12-13 23:56:14 UTC
Get a better monocle

@JerryTPepridge

Qn'qura Zalas Zula
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-12-14 04:53:00 UTC
I love market errors like this, helps me make some money Lol
seriously though, you really need to double and triple check huge outbound orders.
because if you don't, someone else certainly will and make a huge profit at your expense and there isn't a damn you can do about it.

Proper Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance

Caimi Nulang
The Blue Lobster Project
#8 - 2014-12-14 05:11:23 UTC
Yea that's what happens sometimes when you sell big expensive item and don't do a little double check. Was alcohol involved? Scotch has cost me billions of ISK.
X ATM092
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2014-12-14 07:53:10 UTC
It's your fault, stop blaming CCP, learn to make a few bil/hr mostly afk.
Miks Rebelius
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-12-14 08:41:14 UTC
X ATM092 wrote:
It's your fault, stop blaming CCP, learn to make a few bil/hr mostly afk.



Don't tease him man. Smile
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#11 - 2014-12-14 10:36:26 UTC
OP - I wish more people would follow in your footsteps, and do something stupid that's hilariously profitable for me then ALSO come and deliver tears to sweeten an already very profitable transaction.

That "You are trying to sell this item for 99.87% below regional average, are you sure?" warning is like a smoke detector. Most of the times it goes off it's a bloody nuisance, but the one time it goes off when you need it to, it really saves you a lot.

By turning that box off, you did something as dumb as removing the batteries from your smoke detector.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#12 - 2014-12-14 10:50:18 UTC
One little loss and boom, "whaaa not going to play this game anymore".
Looks to me like you didn't want to play EVE in the first place.

EVE is al about consequences, YOU mistyped the amount. YOU said ok sell this. YOU didn't check weather or not you typed in the right price. YOUR fault not CCP's. Now stop sniffling and take it like a man and get back into the game, you've got 1.3 bil to make up for.

See it as a lesson learned. Smile
Cista2
EVE Museum
#13 - 2014-12-14 12:38:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

By turning that box off, you did something as dumb as removing the batteries from your smoke detector.

He did not turn anything off. There is no warning when erecting a sell order for a single item. In fact, this was the whole point of his posting, but I gather you did not read it.

At this point - and having returned to EVE a few months ago - what I really want to know is, who are the sedated minions that rewarded your outstanding incompetence with x thousand "likes" on these forums?

My channel: "Signatures" -

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2014-12-14 21:18:29 UTC
There are definitely warnings on these situations, I had one recently.

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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#15 - 2014-12-14 21:21:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
I just tried selling some materials for COSMOS modules and even an 80% below average sale price (with a big red arrow Blink) wasn't giving me the popup with a single unit of two different items, checked my settings and there was nothing appropriate to reset. Buying however did give me a popup warning.
Cista2
EVE Museum
#16 - 2014-12-14 22:09:29 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
There are definitely warnings on these situations, I had one recently.

Screenshoot it, how hard can it be.

My channel: "Signatures" -

Makhpella
Bad Taste.
#17 - 2014-12-15 00:03:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Makhpella
RAW23
#18 - 2014-12-15 01:00:38 UTC
Steve Atreides wrote:


I petitioned asking where was the normal market warning when placing sell orders under 50% and was told that is only for multiple items and not single items. now hang on, there is a warning if I sell two or more 100k isk items that I may be underselling but if I sell a 1.3 billion ship for 1.29 million there is no warning and the item is gone foroever.

To me this is clearly a broken game mechanic and needs to be fixed. I know someone else did the same thing with a carrier.



The warning system is very bugged in any case. It's really something CCP need to get sorted, although they do seem to have got rid of the multiple false positives that used to come up.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

RAW23
#19 - 2014-12-15 01:02:59 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


By turning that box off, you did something as dumb as removing the batteries from your smoke detector.


You don't have to turn the box off. The system is broken and just doesn't work half the time (it's particularly bad just after downtime). It's been like that for years sadly. If you accidentally overprice something and don't get the warning CCP will reimburse the excess broker fees but they won't fix it if you sell under as that would involve reversing a deal with another player.

Edit - one of the reasons they really need to fix this is because lag can sometimes stop your inputs being registered. The mechanic is there for a reason and making excuses for CCP not fixing something that is broken because 'lol tears' is pretty weak. Generally, if something is put in the game it should work. This often does not.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#20 - 2014-12-15 01:36:31 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
There are definitely warnings on these situations, I had one recently.


what else can ppl expect u to lie about if you get into CSM>?

why do u even post here, u have no idea what u are doing?

@JerryTPepridge

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