Ships & Modules

typhoon.
probably the most versatile ship in the game.
not the best at anything but iv yet to find a role it cant be shoehorned into.

Hey if you remember the name of the post or have it in your history could you link it?
Maybe my google fu is weak but all the carrier training for new characters were usually shot down with no helpful advice on actual skills to be looking at getting / what to start flying to practice.

Luckily the amount of time to train a dominix / typhoon versus training a carrier I can train for the former first while in fleets then train for the carrier in the time after that.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1xipru/planning_for_carrier_pilot/

I think this is the thread. It also has some good advice in the comment section below the post.

But PLEASE, don't start training immediately for a carrier. The person in that Reddit post is obviously already an established player.
Rather, train skills of all kinds, whichever you need. Don't put yourself in a position where you can't fly a ship which is useful and is fun (and has guns) because you went for a carrier right off the bat. Trust me, that will not be fun. And EVE is all about fun, isnt it? :)
When you have a sufficient amount of experience and skillpoints, start training for a carrier. And by the way, by the time you get to that point, you probably won't need skill guides like these...

This is why I have accepted that going straight for the carrier is a bad idea and looking for a versatile ship that can be refitted according to what situation it needs to go into.

Looks like Dominix and Typhoon are the ships I need to look at

Listen to jpoll ,
I committed to training a paladin too early and took a Chuck of time out of my training that I'm making up for now and it's a pain in the arse.
you know you can't use a carrier in highsec right ?

Ships are just tools, that's all they are.

If you're thinking of the carrier in terms of sitting in it and cruising around, then you'll just lose that carrier to someone looking for an easy killmail. Capital ships are not solo ships at all, you need at a minimum a cyno alt on a separate account to even be able to move it around, and there are restrictions where it can go and what it can do.

Otherwise, keep in mind that when you ask for a "versatile" ship, to us it means you can refit it for a number of purposes. But once you undock with a particular fit, that ship will typically be useful for doing 1 thing. It's very hard to get a solopwnmobile in this game, one ship that can do it all, survive any situation; the game is too rock-paper-scissors for that.

As J'Poll mentioned above, a better plan is to train yourself a toolbox with many rocks, papers, and scissors, so that you can always join a fleet with your friends and bring something they can really use.

Also as mentioned above, you can get into remote repairing and logistics right away, there is a line of ships from frigate to cruiser to T2. Don't wait a year to train T2 logis, only to find out that you don't like it, or that you've trained the wrong one.

The T2 logis operate in pairs or "a chain", because all that remote repairing sucks their capacitor energy reserves dry, so they have to give each other capacitor energy too. The decision goes like this: "Do we have an armor-based fleet, or a shield-based fleet? Shield? Ok, shield+capacitor logistics then. Do we have at least 2-3 people? Ok we have a chain of 3 people, good. Ok everyone else bring shield ships, no armor ships for this op, shield ships only."

wow.

Spotting a couple of errors in here.


A. You do NOT need a cyno anymore to move a capital. After Phoebe all caps can use gates. Keep in mind: They still are NOT solo ships. Fly is without a support fleet and it WILL die.

B. Not all logistics work in chains.

There are 4 types of logistics.

2 Armor ones and 2 shield ones. Of both, there is a stand alone version and a buddy version.

Just for the sake of me knowing the names I will take the T2 cruiser ones:

Shield stand alone: Minmatar Scimitar. Works perfectly on its own.
Shield buddy: Caldari Basilisk. It must use a cap chain to be just remotely viable to work.

Armor stand alone: Gallente Oneiros. As with the scimi, it can work alone.
Armor buddy: Amarr Guardian. Like the Basi, it needs a cap chain to keep the thing working.

This thread has been moved to Ships & Modules.

We were talking about subcap logi.

But understanding what you are reading is something you havent learned yet obviously.