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Need guidance- get out of null?

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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2014-12-12 15:19:51 UTC
Lucy Oreless wrote:
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Lucy Oreless wrote:
so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?

No. I'm just saying you are stupid as ****. Nothing more, nothing less.


hehe.. Big smile

I am uncle to a 5yo, she can discuss in a more mature way than you Ka'Narlist Blink


That 5 yo would probably understand better than you how impratical your idea is since it would also need to bind a ship where all that **** happens to fit in slots/cargo. Are you really suggesting you contract to an alt all your belonging + a freighter, then unsub it for many months and then play the casino games of CCP potentially saying no because they obviously can?
Lucy Oreless
Control-Space
DARKNESS.
#22 - 2014-12-12 15:46:47 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:

That 5 yo would probably understand better than you how impratical your idea is since it would also need to bind a ship where all that **** happens to fit in slots/cargo. Are you really suggesting you contract to an alt all your belonging + a freighter, then unsub it for many months and then play the casino games of CCP potentially saying no because they obviously can?


I think you may have misread what i tried to point out. It was not a suggestion at all, i tried to visualize in a other way how dumb the whole idea of CCP returning stuff is. It can easily be exploited to some extent, and i generally don't like the idea at all.

He brought it out there, he should get it back himself (imo).

 I did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....

Oona Molotov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-12-12 16:14:44 UTC
Great responses!
I expected tons of trolls asking me contract them my stuff to "help" me. What I got was helpful info, interesting counterpoints, and a good laugh or two. You guys are awesome! Best gaming community ever. Thanks:

Alastair Ormand
Serene Repose
Pak Narhoo
Trin Javidan
Lucas Kell
Lucy Oreless
Nerath Naaris
Ka'Narlist
Kiandoshia
Violet Hurst
Yim Sei
Hendrick Kion
Bagrat Skalski
Frostys Virpio
Qapla Orion
Biohazard Systems Tracking and Recon Division
#24 - 2014-12-12 17:04:20 UTC
Since it hasn't already come up there is the possibility of using wormholes to escape with your stuff. It requires a bit more work and waiting for the right time, not to mention most likely more dangerous right now with Thera opening and all the blood-thirsty lunatics and their drunk redneck brother/dad will be out looking to score easy kills.

If you're in need of a scammer scanner I happen to know a good one... Blink
Quanah Comanche
#25 - 2014-12-12 17:15:17 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
As far as I know, if you reactivated your account and found yourself in null, CCP will move 1 ship + it's contents to high sec. Everything else you will need to sell.



This at best
J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-12-12 17:17:26 UTC
Oona Molotov wrote:
Hey everyone, I've been gone for 18 months... Need some guidance.
I've got a character (account) that I want to reactivate who's in nullsec. He's got a bunch of stuff down there, but he's now in a general NPC corp, and once I leave the station I'm not gonna be able dock again (if I remember this right)- not to mention I'm not gonna be able to get out of there without hitting a bubble and getting blown to tiny bits. Can anyone recommend a freighter service that travels through null? Any other recommendations?


You have a couple of options:


1. As you have been gone for more then 6 months, You can petition CCP and they will move your character, your current active ship and any cargo in that ship to a "safe location".

2. Contact the owner of the station, see if they can haul it for you.

3. Use public contract.

4. Join the owner or someone friendly to the owner and use that to get yourself out of null-sec.

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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-12-12 17:23:37 UTC
Lucy Oreless wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
[quote=Trin Javidan]

It's been suggested here a lot before. Sell your stuff, put what's left in a ship and get moved, if you ask nicely and they're (GM's) in a good mood, you'll be moved elsewhere.

But as said, I never read here, not in the test forum thread, if it actually worked.


wtf... Really? What kind of stupid crap is that?
CCP actively helping people and some of their stuff out of null? That is wrong on so many levels, i can't even begin to describe it!


Wow.

We have a new leader in the list of either "ignorant or stupid people" list



Get that sand out of your private parts.

You do know that it's only for someone who has been unsubbed for more then 6 months and that is returning to EVE.
It is so that someone might returns to EVE, as opposed to your "idea" of let them rot. I can tell you, people won't return if they are up to the impossible because they took a break from EVE.

Unlike you, some people do have a RL and thus might need a break every once in a while.

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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-12-12 17:25:53 UTC
Lucy Oreless wrote:


He flew out there in the first place.. EVE is about consequences for your actions. I have a lot of stuff in null myself, so you say i can just contract all that **** over to an alt of mine, unsub him for a extended period and then ask CCP to move it for me?



You could.

But CCP does do some research first, so they will just deny it (if you are lucky, they won't punish you for abusing the petition system)

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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-12-12 17:29:41 UTC
Lucy Oreless wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

That 5 yo would probably understand better than you how impratical your idea is since it would also need to bind a ship where all that **** happens to fit in slots/cargo. Are you really suggesting you contract to an alt all your belonging + a freighter, then unsub it for many months and then play the casino games of CCP potentially saying no because they obviously can?


I think you may have misread what i tried to point out. It was not a suggestion at all, i tried to visualize in a other way how dumb the whole idea of CCP returning stuff is. It can easily be exploited to some extent, and i generally don't like the idea at all.

He brought it out there, he should get it back himself (imo).


First, luckily the opinion of retards never mattered in the world that often.


And it can be exploited, luckily it's not something CCP automatically does. They do some background to see if you truely unsubbed (and not just 1 account, but all your accounts) for at least 6 months.

If they spot that it's just an alt account, while you kept active on your main, their answer is quick and simple....a big fat no (friend of mine tried that with one of his alts he forgot about and was locked in the Dronelands).

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Lucy Oreless
Control-Space
DARKNESS.
#30 - 2014-12-12 17:57:09 UTC
You seem so angry Lol

 I did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....

Miko Valentine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-12-15 12:24:10 UTC
look how close you are to GE-8 and join BRAVE ?
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#32 - 2014-12-15 12:46:35 UTC
Lucy Oreless wrote:
You seem so angry Lol

Folks round here react badly to bad trolling and/or ******** remarks (it's GD, we expect quality trolling)
Dustpuppy
New Eden Ferengi
#33 - 2014-12-15 14:16:12 UTC
What I did was:

I waited some time until the owner of the station changed. And woohoooo, just 3 years later I am about to fly there and bring out my shiny drone alloys I left behind in 2011. Lol
Meyr
Pirannha Corp
#34 - 2014-12-15 15:30:10 UTC
I've never used them, but try asking if Black Frog has a way of moving stuff from your station.

Public courier contracts are also a possibility, but you will probably have to offer a very high fee in order to generate interest - I offered 10% of the collateral as the fee, which worked pretty well. If you must move a long distance, you may want to add in a bit more for jump fuel.

Marketing your stuff may sound like a good idea, but you must either price it far below market value, or sit and wait, adjusting prices, until it's all sold before moving.

Good luck!
Seven Koskanaiken
Guerillas in the Mist
Outlanders United
#35 - 2014-12-16 05:23:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
You, or an alt, get into an alliance that's blue to the station, then get the stuff out piece by piece. Eveskunk is a good source for standings.

Quick evewho says you were in LAWN. This really isn't a big problem.
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2014-12-16 05:41:09 UTC
If you have any friends from your old corp who you trust, ask them to use the JF services available to the alliance on your behalf to get your stuff moved out.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Hippinse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-12-16 08:43:48 UTC
Contact the new locals. Maybe they'll be sympathetic to your situation, especially given the length of time you were away. Another possibility along this route is that your interests might align with theirs. They may have a need for talent, and you might find enlistment preferable to moving.

Then, once safely inside, bide your time. Slowly gain their trust and climb the ladder. When the opportunity arises STRIKE THEM DOWN and then grind them under your boot-heel. Once their assets are forbidden to them, once their alliance is in tatters and their sov is lost, once they no longer have the means or the will to hinder you ... then you can move to hisec.


Oona Molotov
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2014-12-18 04:38:22 UTC
Ok, so I've gotten some rad advice (thanks everyone!) but I haven't given an update on what has actually happened. Here's a quick update which shows why and how EVE is so rad, at times. My alt woke up and the station was full of a super cool corp who took pity on me and totally took me in. It was a serious gamble since they could've decimated me, but it paid off and I'm happily ratting away in null sec. So what's the lesson?

1. This forum rocks (thanks again for giving me options I never even considered)
2. EVE rules because ONCE IN A BLUE MOON it drops you a ray of hope that you weren't expecting, and certainly didn't earn. For the most part though, you have to work your tail off and scrape by... Kind of like life I guess.

Anyways. I'm officially done. I came to the right place.

Thanks everyone. Fly safe out there.

Sincerely,

OM
Hippinse
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-12-18 05:36:41 UTC
Oona Molotov wrote:
My alt woke up and the station was full of a super cool corp who took pity on me and totally took me in.


Step one complete. Excellent.
Octoven
Noir Holdings
#40 - 2014-12-18 07:22:02 UTC
Lucy Oreless wrote:

He flew out there in the first place.. EVE is about consequences for your actions.


True enough; however, when an entire region has been taken over by hostile forces or your alliance has given such space up voluntarily, how is that consequences of YOUR actions? Yes, flying out there is your responsibility and you need to have the consequence of getting out of there if your account is active and you can see that the station will be falling to enemy control. However, since you can not readily move your assets because you do not have knowledge of the system being taken over by an enemy...that isn't a consequence for your action. Thats just an unfortunate incident that can be rectified by a 1 time move out of hostile space.
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