Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello,

As with all patches, download speed is terribad - 200 ko/s maximum, with many freezes and slowdowns.

Therefore I assume that the download is done from a few (if not only one) centralized sources. Why isn't a torrent protocol implemented in the launcher ? It could only save bandwidth for CCP and would make things smoother for all players.

Have the same exact problem, but much slower, barely pulling 20kb ..

They should at least provide an alternative ..

I support this idea. Would make patch day a day I can actually play on. Instead of waiting the 3 to 6 hours download to finish after I go to bed.

I don't think this is a trivial fix, but I'd say be sure that the information can't somehow be changed, and then I'd support this without a doubt.

"Things work for me because I start my client during breakfast so everything is OK"... seriously, mate?

Read just one post above and meditate for a second.
Oh and my bandwidth is around 10 Mb/s (tested daily, believe me).

When hundreds of people download, a large server with a large bandwidth can cope. But as numbers go up it becomes impossible. Two solutions : have everybody waiting/go slow, or multiply the sources. I suggest the second option.

patched two clients, one after the other, not both at once, on a 100mb fiber connection.
first one took 12 HOURS
second client, took 2 MINUTES
so at least near me, there were some significant problems most of the day

I'd been trying to patch for 48 hours yet I couldn't get more than 3KB/s. Tried repairing and got it to go faster but still only 20KB/s a far cry from my usual speed. Seriously you've had 10+ years to develop a decent patching system and Rheas patch is frankly unacceptable.

gonna say this.

If the rest of their stuff is fine and this obvious abnormal behavior m (I am assuming, poster can confirm or deny lol)....almost sounds like for whatever reason something about how ccp sends the data is being throttled.


Which if the case its a bad sign imo. Not a peer to peer fan and will not start up that debate here but if their isp seems to be doing QOS settings that favor peer to peer over what I will call normal and legit traffic from a European if not Icelandic ip block source (I don't know where the file servers are tbh) someone at that isp has a weird view of bandwidth priority. Unless Iceland has replaced say certain Asian areas as ripe areas of potential piracy and badness and I didn't get the memo.

I'm stuck with ADSL at 1.5Mbps down. Seriously, that's the best service I can get. I've had to take a proactive approach to Eve patches.

For small patches, I have a little script that (a) kills the Eve client if it's running, then (b) launches a fresh copy of the launcher. This script is run as a Scheduled Task daily, 30 minutes after the end of downtime (1230 UTC, 0530 local). By the time I'm ready to play, the client is patched and ready.

For big patches, like Rhea, this doesn't work. Not only does a 1.6Gb file take ages to download at 1.5Mbps, more often than not it becomes corrupted, and the patch fails. So then I see a big patch coming, I disable that script, and I start the Eve launcher on my computer at work to make sure it's at the same patch level as at home. Then on patch day, I again use my work computer, and my work's big fat data pipe, to get the required patch file. Rhea took about 12 minutes. Then the patch file goes to a thumb drive, sneakernetted home, and the patch copied in.

So, yeah, I think there's room for improvement to Eve's patch mechanic. Better server distribution, peer-to-peer something, having some kind of fault tolerance to correct corrupted data short of redownloading a massive patch, etc.

[N.B. No, I don't get to play Eve at work. But I do have the OK to do what I'm doing for patching, after I explained why and asked nicely.]