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Gunboat for L4 Mission running in caldari space
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-12-04 21:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
Lirs Corum wrote:
Ok so one last Q on this topic.

CNR -> Golem

Mach -> Vargur

Which ship makes missions faster and is more fun?

The Golem is superior to the CNR.

However Mach vs Vargur is a more complex comparison. I would say they each offer a different set of choices and trade offs. It largely depends on the mission and your exact fit. Each one caters to a different play style really. But both are equally top tier mission boats.

Fun is totally a matter of personal taste. Personally, I like the Vargur.
Rosira
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-12-05 04:54:32 UTC
Lirs Corum wrote:
Is Vindi better then Rattler or Navi dominix?


For a wanting a Gun Boat, yes. Rattler is Missile/Drone and Domi is Drones with a side order of guns
Yaro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-12-07 14:27:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Yaro
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Lirs Corum wrote:
Ok so one last Q on this topic.

CNR -> Golem

Mach -> Vargur

Which ship makes missions faster and is more fun?

The Golem is superior to the CNR.

However Mach vs Vargur is a more complex comparison. I would say they each offer a different set of choices and trade offs. It largely depends on the mission and your exact fit. Each one caters to a different play style really. But both are equally top tier mission boats.

Fun is totally a matter of personal taste. Personally, I like the Vargur.


One very important thing at least for me, Machariel goes around 600 m/s with Gist Afterburner.

One big plus to Vargur it can fit tractor beams and salvagers.
Cpt Tirel
Institute For Continuous Glory
#24 - 2014-12-07 15:38:56 UTC
How about T3's?

[Proteus, New Setup 1]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II

Gistum B-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Around 900 turret dps depending on implants, at 21+29 with navy antimatter.
1454 m/s
I made it to have an armor buffer to be less juicy suicide gank target, you can switch buffer tank for more active tank or something else if you want. Total cost around 1 bill.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-12-07 19:59:13 UTC
Cpt Tirel wrote:
How about T3's?

[Proteus, New Setup 1]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II

Gistum B-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating
Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature
Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Around 900 turret dps depending on implants, at 21+29 with navy antimatter.
1454 m/s
I made it to have an armor buffer to be less juicy suicide gank target, you can switch buffer tank for more active tank or something else if you want. Total cost around 1 bill.


900 is seriosly less then 1300 dps or 1500 dps
Cpt Tirel
Institute For Continuous Glory
#26 - 2014-12-07 20:07:49 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:

900 is seriosly less then 1300 dps or 1500 dps


So what?
It moves at 1400+ m/s and warps much faster than any BS, on top of that its damage application is better. I dare say it is the only ship that can rival a Machariel at blitzing l4 missions.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-12-07 20:18:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
Cpt Tirel wrote:
Garrett Osinov wrote:

900 is seriosly less then 1300 dps or 1500 dps


So what?
It moves at 1400+ m/s and warps much faster than any BS, on top of that its damage application is better. I dare say it is the only ship that can rival a Machariel at blitzing l4 missions.


I was talking exactly about Machariel. It has better tracking, superior firepower, range and goes around 600 m/s with Gist afterburner or 1450 m/s with MWD (personaly never fitted MWD to Machariel, because 600 was fast enough for me)
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