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Centurax makes some great points there. I would like to comment some.

"1) When using filters to find things like clone facilities, it would be helpful to have the station also highlighted so it is easier to find in a systems with multiple stations. (Having an option to show closest and have it set as destination would always be helpful)." (Sorry, quotes aren't working for some wired reason.)

Support.

"2) System summary when zoomed in on a system, how many people in it, how many jumps that day, how many in space/docked, kills in the last hour/day, always useful info to have."

I support more statistics info on a current system (in a top left corner there is a good place), BUT since this kind of info has a strategic value probably consider limiting it empire space and sovereignity holders only. Don't know about null sec but hiding this statistics for wormspace (as it is now) is a good idea and shouldn't be changed. For wormspace there is another kind of info that may present though:

"5) Information on WH systems could be displayed better, as you can get so much from Dotlan, it would be nice to get the same in game too, for example what effects are present in that system."

Effects and their impact on various properties, wormhole class and etc. (some bores will object there is a distinction in wormhole nebulas, but I don't see good reasons to conceal such an info and not to make it just clear).


Anyways, since local is available in k-space, why not to add a one line summary about number of people in the system (k-space only), how many corps, blues, reds and etc? This will just save me (and many other people) much screen space from keeping local chat always open.


"4) Show locations of Corp (hopefully one day Alliance) assets in space, from Secure Containers to Starbases, seeing the locations of them on a map would be helpful at times."

This one and the following are staying close together.

"1) It doesn't need to have little models of ships flying around, color coded ship representations would be enough, e.g. white for neutrals, red for enemies, purple for fleet. This could be generated from what your scouts see and only what they can see."

Actually, there is an idea of a 3D magnifier tool, like the one with the same name found on Windows. You click on a celestial (with a friendly scout or POS) and a 3D space ball with a grid preview pops up while you hold the button. You rotate the view (while holding the button) and the magnified ball rotates all around. Ships and everything is just coded with color dots there like Centurax suggests.


Other points about tactical map and chartered wormspace map are great too and I support them, but I won't stop on them except of one last thing. Since (and if everything is going to be implemented some shiny day) the wormspace connections map is going to be a very powerful strategic tool (in contrast to bookmarks and especially incorporated with route planning mechanisms) I am standing against immediate sharing of such an info with large groups of people (corp is the most, and maybe even that shouldn't be allowed). Actually it might add much to gameplay if there was an option to exchange such data on close contact. For instance, you may jetcan a so called local map databank into space (passworded or not) and your friend may grab it to merge the wormspace data into his computer. Hostiles may use a data analyzer on the databank-can or even directly on you to break the PC and steal the data...


Also, a module for analyzing a wormhole sounds a good idea to me. I would say it shuold be a mid-slot scanner of some type. Only maybe it shouldn't give 100% results even with perfect skills, because wormspace must retain it's risks or it wouldn't be much fun.


Thanks everyone for reading this offtopic and have a nice day!

As for showing wormholes, and separating them from the map, they will have to put the "zoom to system I am in currently" and "zoom out to show all galaxy map" buttons.

First option will move you to the system on the 3D map, or to the wormhole. The second will just zoom you out to the whole map.

Checked out this feature on SiSi and I am blown away at how awesome the new map is. It's incredible! Most favorite feature of Rhea. The art/coloring and the functionality are both ridiculously good. I also liked the new UI at the top of the window, much cleaner and more enjoyable to work with.

Some Suggestions:

I found clicking on individual systems to be a bit awkward. If you can, please make them have a 'button' feel or some other type of feedback for the player when clicking on the individual star system. It might also be a good idea to have a system info window pop up whenever a system is highlighted to be more intuitive to new players who might not know to right click for that information.

It would be really cool if you could add in bookmarks, planets, structures, POS', or whatever else into the system map when zoomed in. That would be an incredible tool for FCs.

The "zoom" function is reversed. I would like the map to zoom out when pulling back on the mouse wheel, and zoom in when pushing the wheel forward, right now it is opposite of this. Or at least have a UI option for players to set this to their preference.


Awesome work!!

First iteration looks great. Some suggestions for the new map:

• An option to follow your ship while on the move between systems
• Mark Autopilot Gates and Stations in yellow as in the 3d view and Overview
• Optional "Directional" scan cone in the solar system zoomed-in view (as in the F11 navigation panel)
• Configurable statistics overview (pilots in space etc.) in a popup when you hover over a system

I did a little quick testing and my first impression was glowing balls, glowing balls nothing but glowing balls and getting sense of anything was near impossible from all the glow.

So if we might have something less glowing and more utilitarian such as the minimap that you get when pressing F11 that would be great, thank you because I don't need a map that's pretty I need a map that gives me information that I need when I need it.

I loved this as soon as it appeared - however after a little update that happened yesterday(?) I no longer have the little wheel to choose what I want to see. Also the overlay (with the Map and X on top) can be dragged all over the place if you click in the header box bit, so it no longer lines up properly.

Seems part of the update was putting the planet and gate brackets on a little "pin" which is nice.

Can I have my functionality back please I wanted to do some proper testing.

All that I am hearing from you guys lately is "new player". While I understand why you want to increase you subscription base where does that leave vets? Eve historically has never been a noob friendly game. If you dumb this game down to a level that anyone can understand in a day or two then you will remove a lot of the complexity that keeps vets playing this game for years and years.

I have yet to see these new changes so I can't say as to weather it is dumbing the game down or not I am just cautioning against making noobs your golden goose and alienating the vets that those same noobs are wanting to come play with.

The new map has all of the functionality of the old one, except has a better UI and can be used in windowed mode. It's also imo more intuitive, not really sure how "older players" are getting shunned with this. I guess you dropped this rant in the wrong thread?

Two small comments:

• With ISIS, PI, and now Map 2.0 the Close Window 'X' is moving all over the place. Some people might actually use a mouse.
• More of a concern to me personally:
The Google-map-alike 'pins' / system map markers hover a fixed, but undefined margin above the actual point of interest. (Best viewed from the ecliptic plane.) More so, the icon itself isn't placed at the actual 'place' at all. I understand you cannot blot out a point of interest with an oversized icon, but right now nothing marks the spot.

I can think of two solutions off-hand:
1. Give us, in addition to the current sisi markers, a 3x3 pixel cross-hair, X, v, or inverted v centered on the coordinates.
2. Axe the hovering margin, and have the pointy end of your inverted droplet be high contrast, e.g. ending in a white v at the actual coordinates.

Right now, lines are ending 'off', and I fear for dscan again with all the actual markers being so far off from what they ought to indicate.

They're jumps that connect two different constellations.