Science & Industry

for background.


have every t1 ammo blueprint fully researched, after running numbers on all the stuff that should be used for missions best profit i was making was 40k an hour.

t1 drones sell under manufacture cost with perfect print currently.

with t1 ships, which everyone and their mother has told me to never touch after taxes etc i'm showing the ability to make 300-900k an hour a slot




just coming back into eve is there something weird with the market currently? i will keep looking but after two hours i have yet to find many profitable t1 items, im about 2 days away from buying t2 bpc's and producing them, and i dont even understand invention and would need to read up, can but a hs pos in caldari and amaar space. have around 4b and a freighter to start it all up.

so i guess question is is something happening with market or was the information i was getting incorrect now, as certain ships seem to be the highest isk/hr/slot income possible.

What are you using for the cost basis for your minerals?

People who make a profit on T1 get their minerals at lower that normal prices. They set buy orders away from trade hubs that are a little low, and await a market drop that uncovers their order. That way they pick up the minerals (or ore) at a low price, and can make a net profit.

Profit expectation comes from a combination of margin, volume and competition. The only time IPH comes into play is when assessing opportunity cost. From the Eve Production Manager User Guide Market Research article,



Cruisers can be extremely effective when properly researched, but unfortunately with teams going away buying any hull BPO would be very risky because the backsplash is likely to be extreme. However, there are over 800 items a T1 producer might consider, and if you don't use a data mining application, you must instead find one nugget to find more similar nuggets.

Thats a terrible business model. If the minerals are more valuable(or equally valuable) to the finished product at a major trade hub you could just ship the minerals to a major trade hub and sell them.

Many things in production are simply counter-intuitive. Historically, my highest profit items haven't been the highest IPH items, they've been the highest turnover * margin items. Back in its day, I would have happily sold 11 items that performed like the Large Trimark at its 1mil/hr over any of my 2mil/hr battleships, as its margin was triple the bs and it was my most profitable item. The combination of it being efficient enough to get queued and its turnover * margin drove its profit.

Take your 11 slots on one toon. Say you buy the Rokh, Apoc and Dominix because the IPH is very high. You'll need 10s of billions in isk to build them. You don't have 10s of billions, so now you're not building 8 per day of anything. At best you'll build any particular large hull on average 3 days a week. You have 77 slot days to fill and your capital is crapped out trying to sell at 5% margins when with less capital you can sell more than double the margin.

If you can't max out your slots, you're better off selling something you CAN max out that gives you a higher margin and good turnover. When you have 11 slots that you actually can max out AND you have a healthy capital/sales ratio, then and only then do you transition to higher capital/IPH items. You WILL build your capital faster this way.

agreed, but it's hard to make people realize that maybe it's not worth building those T1 mods if you get the same profit or higher much faster if you simply just sold those minerals that you got on the cheap.