Crime & Punishment

Some times there is little you can do, it seems that you were doing the right things by Scouting and using your D-Scan and safe spots etc. Sometimes it can be a good idea to also fit a cloak on your ship at least that way you can fly to your safe spot and cloak up, most of the time the pirates move on if they can't find you.

In most PvP someone in the gang has Neuts fitted, so your cap goes quickly and if you are active tanked that shuts down, and so do your lazors! etc. Best thing to do is make sure you are insured, unfortunately you can not guard against everything in Eve and sometimes you have to accept the loss.

This loss will however give you kill rights on the guys that shot and destroyed you for 30 days, try getting your own back

Theres a few things you could have done in that situation...

Warped to a planet, cloaked while slowboating in some obscure direction away from the planet (If you have a cloak fitted)

Bounce between rolling safes.. Set these up during slow periods in something fast, then land, align, check d-scan, watch for probes, move to next safe.. this is best done with sets of 5-7, just remember to burn any safe you get caught in (delete it)

When warping to a gate at 0, see how much of the enemy will aggress you. Anyone that aggresses you cannot jump through for a minute, this can be done repeatedly depending on how well you ship holds up under fire, but when you jump through to the other side, hold you cloak for about 5 seconds, then burn back to the gate. Anything with a web bonus will make this very difficult.

Set-up a POS or team up with people that live in the same area, that way you have somewhere to safe up at; few people will mess with a POS in low-sec; its just too screamingly 'Hot Drop Bait'


Accept the idea that more experienced players, are keen to all of this, and will often attempt to counter it. Theres always a fast tackle that won't engage on a gate that you have to seperate from his gang before you can destroy him. Losses will happen, Ships will get exploded, the thrill will never end. Learn from your mistakes.

I didn't realize this. Figured he could get thru undetected.



Yeah....we knew the risks. It's not their fault we got caught.



This seems like it's important to know. I think I might have been able to put up a fight if I had waited for some of them to shoot me before I jumped thru...Thank you...



Good to know as well.

Thanks for the help.

The Pirates which know what they are doing following this:
Target at Gate in jump range > only ONE ship aggroes, tackler jumps ahead
Target at Gate jumps > All non aggroed ships jump too, tackler on the other side is waiting > Dead
Target at Gate aggroes > Dead

There is only one safe way to escape (with ships that can't warp cloaked)
Cloak - MWD trick
You need a MWD and a TII cloaking device
You jump through a Gate, you align to a Celestial, Station, Gate, BM and "instantly" (it takes about 1s after your align command for the cloaking device to be ready to activate) activate your cloak followed by your MWD for one cycle. 1-2 sec before your MWD cylce ends you decloak and warp to your alignment. (make sure your MWD is deactivated for the 2nd cycle)

Semi safe way:
Nano fitting or speed nano. Anything with an align time below 5-6sec and enough speed is quite safe, anything below 2-3sec is nearly impossible to tackle even with a remote boosted fast tackle Legion with above 2000 scan reso. Eve is working with 1sec ticks be aware of that.
Example: Nano Shield Hurricane
All V with 2x Nanofibers TII in low slots
6.3s align time
2205 m/s with heated MWD

You jump through, you align to Celestial, Station, Gate, BM, do not activate warp. Pre overheat your MWD before you activate it and run :), get out of tackle range, deactivate your MWD and warp out. This isn't a 100% safe way as any Rapier, Huginn or Loki with web will most likely catch you.


Edit:
If you are followed and tackled by a fast ship, Ceptor or Frig or speed nano CR/BC, either use ECM Drones and pray or with some PvP experience kill the tackling ship at about 100km off Gate. (Make sure your aren't more than 150km off gate as any friends can warp to the tackler then). Any Ceptor and Non ECCM Frig/CR will die to a speed nano Cane with proper fitting.

Trying to get back to the Gate if it's not a highsec Gate will result in most cases in a loss. Exceptions are active armor tanked ships like Myrmidon (dual or triple rep) or Hyperion or active shield tanked ships like Maelstrom with those ones you should try to get back to the Gate.

Nope. Cloaked or not, the gate will always show activity; either inbound or outbound.

Lose more ships and enjoy it.

And die to a HIC like a Noob.

You did a lot of things right and sometimes you just get caught. I'ld however have waited on the gate before jumping. Even if one agresses you, that'll be one less on the other side.

I like this idea...sounds like a more daring/dangerous way to escape



We work together....this has now made things awkward between us....



I knew that your ship disappeared after logging out... I didn't know that it was a bad idea to log during the aggression timer



Smart.



this was interesting too....is that "as intended"?


This thread has been very helpful to me and my backstabbing helios friend =). Thanks again