Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I believe their exact words were "capitals are still not allowed to enter high-sec... but we might revisit this in the future."

Underlined the important word.

When someone says "might" it is usually a safe bet that they won't do it unless they have a compelling reason to... which there isn't. In fact, there are more compelling reasons to keep capitals OUT of high-sec.

I have been playing EVE with one toon or another since before 2004.

I remember capitals in high-sec, lol :)

Here goes, from a vet that's seen it all, done it all...


Motherships, or what they call supercarriers now a day, and Titans serve no purpose in high sec. Those are 'super' (well they used to be, now its a joke) weapons.

Dreads, i can't see the point of them in high sec.... POS bashing would be too easy, they can't really hit anything small with those capital weapons... leave them out.

Now carriers... those are interesting. Very multi-tasking ships, which have been gathering dust for quite sometime. Allow them in high-sec for logistic runs, force multiplier, etc.
Don't let them use smartbombs, triage and maybe even stop/nerf the usage of remote repairs/boosters.

Carriers would become the favorite ship and expensive cargo mover for high sec to low sec. They are a good force multiplier, and players have found roles for them time and over.

Yep, too good in fact.



Because they are so powerful



Because they are so powerful



Wait. What?

OK just my opinion here but since you asked.

Allow all caps to transit through high sec only to make moving them around because of the new jump limitations seems to be a wise and appropriate thing to do. However alll modules that are offensive in nature or that can be used for remote rep or boosting should be disabled allowing for purely defensive module activation only. Why, I have seen what a single carrier flown by a good pilot can do and that level of damage and tanking would be impossible for all but the largest of the high sec corps/alliances to deal with. This would turn high sec into a virtually risk free killing zone for cap ship pilots.

Type of logic I like, want to destroy my stuff you have to take a huge loss...good thing 99% of EVE is so risk adverse they have to fly so cheap to avoid a loss and CCP won't even touch destroyers (really, removing a gun or two wouldn't be over nerfing them that badly or coding them to stop making short range guns so OP cause they fire so fast...weird how destroyers lost their 50% rate of fire and suddenly the fast rate of fire gun is preferred ). If I am stupid enough to activate a capital module that allows you to shoot back or CONCORD to instant pop me (would have to finally code this part, basically I could equip tank mods and guns but to activate the guns or remote reps...you get the idea what would happen), I take a huge loss...other wise I am sitting around in space doing nothing but transiting from one point to the other. Not everyone cares for huge power blows, but having a dread or carrier would be fun and players would respond in kind should I use it against them....sensor damping/jamming EWAR already says dreads are useless against NPC, and surprise surprise they are massive over kill in any level 4 (level 5 being already fixed locations and already well known, good thing probing is so easy level 5 agents are so lonely know unless your corp locks down the area) with Incursions already focused to often in highsec for "public" raids that they cause massive shout out, like a million deaths and where suddenly silenced on the forums. Carriers on the other hand....yeah, they are the known factor with assign fighter except for someone saying they are blocked by gates..on the other hand if they could also use bombers but restricted to just 5 or Geckos where a racial class of drone instead of a type with 50m of bandwidth each.

CCP just needs to go one way, balls out and remove all caps with Chribba taking it over the barrel. No one should be given particular dispensation, but the player base keeps telling CCP how the player base should be treated....so damn weird . Think the entire game needs to go hard core mode with full SP loss and no med clones, then get back to "remove level 4s or nerf Incursion income" cause some people can't seem to compete in an Everybody vs Everybody game where somebody is getting excluded

I'd like to see certain high-traffic lanes which would allow capital ships and would also jump ships longer distances per stargate. Then I would disallow capital movement through any low-traffic gates regardless of their security level.

It would be good for the noobs to see the bigger ships floating around and blasting each other in deuls...id love it

Plus one from me

what makes you think there will be one carrier and one dread? They will blot out the sun...

a corp that uses 6 guardians for station games can use 6 carriers and then cyno them out to a safe station if they eventually get bumped out of rep range.

an what makes you think everyone has a mach to bump with? bearing in mind a significant portion of corps decced are industrial and low SP/experience corps. it makes it even harder for poor noobs to effectively counter richer, more skilled and experienced players.

edit- Space highways are something i've liked in the past and could be a suitable allowance for caps. but something in the back of my mind is telling me theres a good reason we dont have more space highways....

That code restriction already exists for dictor bubbles, doomsdays, cynos, POS module anchoring, and a few other things. Might require re-jiggering the item attributes, but some of it is already in place. For example, you cannot assign fighters in a 0.4 sec system.

Allowing caps to transverse high sec, but not use reps, remote reps, drones, triage, doomsdays, (gang links?,) or siege might allow them the limited functionality they need to transverse high sec without disrupting the high sec balance. If you can turn capitals into orcas at best, slow shuttles at worst, I'm ok with them moving through the high sec space lanes, as the current penalties for jumping around, while necessary, are quite harmful to general travel. I'm sure the briefer war decs of null sec alliances would love the added KM's, and those alliances and pilots that can safely navigate through HS would appreciate the opportunity to bypass some awful low sec routes they now have to traverse.

Capitals moving in low/null sec has the potential to create content.

Capitals moving through or idling in high sec creates no content.

If you want to fly the biggest ships in eve you have to leave your security blanket.