Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP needs to consider releasing a subset of EVE for all those PVP players with big fangs, Killboard OCD, and no love for industry, marketing, plot, or traveling from system to system in EVE. This rather than slowly changing the main game to go there anyway due to demands of the large "get me into PVP now" crowd.

Basically use all the same EVE code for ships and combat. Players can buy stuff off market and fit ships as normal too. But these players can only access a single closed 0.0 star system. (Blame Jovian anthropolists or Sansha scientists).

Minor differences in code:

(1) Official public killboard and Epeen score boards!!!!

Epeen boards being specialty scoring boards using selective criteria and weighting. For example kills by frigates only, kills by T1 fit only, or most expensive target(s) killed etc.

(2) Challenge and ladder boards!!!

Structured competitions with "rules" scores and ranking. Connects directly from station undock via station assisted jump/warp to special competition complexes. Options fixed, random, or user selectable depending on scoreboard rules. Sign up Fleets or pilots. Limited number of sides or open battle royale. Probeable or cloaked complex. Rat filled EVE PVE/FW complex or ratless versions. Both immediate spontaeous fights or scheduled future times. Forfeit penalties?

(3) Stuff just appears in market. No Industry!!! No PVE or player bounties (No CONCORD)

And PLEX at least just disappear Maybe its trading supplied by T4 cloaked haulers or linked to Jita 4-4 by a secret wormhole internal to station market. No one knows. (Obviously linked to standard EVE market for PLEX to ISK sales since no industry exists.)

(4) modified system undocks

Standard undocks are modified at this system's stations to alleviate station camping of those leaving stations for normal unstructured system roams. Ship exits are micro-jumped in random directions and variable distances. Distances can greatly exceed Empire micro-jump technology. Distances are however influenced by ship size with larger hulls generally appearing at greater distances. Ships in the same fleets will micro-jump to the same general area as the fleet commader for a limited time during which the FC will be visibly marked in overview as an FC (possibly with general indicator as to current fleet size) so others nearby can flee. Obviously the FC role can be strategically changed later to confuse the enemy.



(5) Coward's dock

For various reasons some pilot's may not feel they have the time, skills or luck to survive the gaunlet of campers to redock and elect to use what is called by system dwellers as the coward's dock. Three possible cowards dock systems exist with potentially different competitive penalties and usage costs.

(5a) Station internal warp disruption field -

a familiar technology raised to unbelievable levels of precision and miniaturization this means of expedited docking is the least costly to the pilot all around. Simply lock onto this warp disruption field's beacon and the ship drops suddenly out of warp within the ring shaped station's central forcefield near an open docking bay. Pilot epeen scores will be shortened accordingly as soon as they opt to use this method. However, usage issues might still exist with player bubbles and waiting for traffic congestion to clear. Smaller ships colliding with a large ship in the small arrival area as it drops out of warp might eject it from the safe zone. The beacon shold probably have colored lights or issue next served numbers. Hope that docking is not urgent.

(5b) Station assisted micro-jump -

also more advanced and precise version of familiar technology. However it requires a ship fitting with working micro-jump capability. Rumo has it that newer stations bein built by robots will feature a separate arrial area from all other traffic where ships can almsot directly appear and enter a very large docking entrance.

(5c) The gate...


(6) docked station chat vs system (to partition chat volume), competition board channels, etc

Lol, no.

Wow.
This is the first time I've seen the PVP side want to be completely partitioned off from the rest of the game. Usually it comes from miners, mission runners, and freighter pilots.

Of course, the answer to this request is NO.

Trying to separate the game is a seriously bad idea. All the little parts working together is what makes EvE grand. If there's a part you don't like, then don't do it. If there's a part that irritates you, then avoid it or mitigate it. If there's a part that's missing, then create a third party tool for it. Work with what's there rather than trying to siphon resources to make an mirror-universe EvE.

Luckily for you though, we have these things called tournaments. Participate in them, and you'll have 90% of what you asked for in the OP.

-1 to proposal.

--Gadget

Oh right I get what your saying...pretty coo l

and some one with indy and mining toons it would be great way to handle the bloody minded teens that play eve to troll...pit them against each other...genius!

Plus one from me

Plus of course both bigger and smaller contest rounds than Alliance Tournament.

Could easily create a contest board for noobs with under 900K SP for example. Or skirmish fleets of 25-100 ships. Or ladder for best fleet worth under 100B. Might even eventually let users create their own contest rules - at least specify max value of fleet, number of ships, number sides, etc complex (battle map), NPC rats/wingmen, or such.

Except that both loss and difficulty to replace are both factors of what makes PvP in eve satisfying. If we go out and trash an enemy fleet, and all it takes is them docking back up to get a new ship, then it's pointless. Might as well stage brawls on the test server.

If someone still has to build the ships and people still have to earn money to buy them, then might as well play on the normal server.

The only possible thing that you propose of any interest is highly functional kilboards. And why the hell would CCP not go ahead and offer them to everyone?

As a pvp player, I have not one shred of interest in this special server of yours, where my activities have no impact on a larger scale. I wish to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, hear the lamentations of their women.

Not stand around in a dueling circle, kill another PvPer, exchange lip service non bitter GF's all around, then back to station to easily pick up another ship. Boring.

Um... if all the PVPers -- the kind that blow billions on disposable ships in the goodfite -- were elsewhere, who's going to buy my stuff?

No way.
-2 for trying to take my market away from me.

--Gadget

Actually, this is a PVP game, and recent changes have benefited industrialists immensely while providing much smaller advantages to piracy. The only reason CCP is showing support for industry is out of recognition for its value to everyone's ability to blow each other up. So in a way, the industry bonuses are a roundabout way of making it easier/cheaper to gank industrialists, among other things.

A "members only" server for leet pure PVPers with special benefits ?

Oh wow I don't know where to start with this... Just no.

And I'll just leave this here...

[From EVE Online website]

One server, one universe
The EVE Online community plays together on a single server.
The results of your actions resonate across the entire galaxy.
Forge a reputation that matters.

Umm I think a separate server is a bad idea. -1

As bad as it sounds though- i would like something like WOW (sry i said it) has.

a 1v1 or 3v3 5v5 whatever queue for pvp..

something where u dont have to fly across space in your fleet just to be blobbed to get your pvp.

Im not against bubble camping to kill shuttles and pods or getting 30 of your buddies to go kill a cruiser.... im not..

but finding small gang vs small gang warfare is tough business in eve when you have alot of your time spent making the isk for your ships.

Yes if you are part of a large alliance and want to take orders from some corp to get paid to do your pvp that's one thing..

i for one wouldn't mind blowing 15bn isk on pvp ships but im not really interested in spending 500m on a ship that is just gonna get out numbered and insta-popped by 20 ishtars.

Again im not against large fleet roams but the lack of good pvp outside of joining FW or having to be part of a large alliance. I say these 2 options because having enough players online and ready to pvp when u have time to pvp is the bottleneck for me and most of my eve career.

Spend time protecting someones space in a large alliance-
Low sec pvp with high gank risk
High sec wars - station games (get camped in stations or camp someone in a station OR kill noobs sutpid enough to fly around solo during war time)



IDN i think it would make my eve life better. But im inherently lazy and like to not have to deal with other peoples needs and wants of me in order to get what i want.. I already have a wife for that..

Before anyone says i can already get all this, I know i can. Join a current pvp corp. Organize my own pvp fleets, recruit more players, ect.

Just feels like ALOT of work to blow up some ships with other people in a semi regulated fashion.

The Rhea release coming sorta went that direction with the new WH system with 4 stations! Great but gonna be SUPER gank ready and prob not to much fun getting ganked every other time u undock.. we'll have to see how that goes.. my hopes are not high for that kind of excitement but that is a different topic.