EVE General Discussion

First off you have to blame ISBoxer for being able to let 1 guy run 12 accounts to do the ganking.

I am not one to believe there is 12 different people ganking someone for their ship. Although this happens sometimes, this is NOT the case MOST of the time, it is simply 1 person who is overreaching their ability to interact in the game.

Next in general freighters are garbage, not because of capacity but for the reason people will gank them empty. You literally can haul NOTHING and get killed for it, and this happens more often then one would think. Hell even CCP asked the players what they thought of this as they had noticed it was happening.

Third your only chance here is to run multiple accounts, what an option right? Kind of fits into the Devs doing nothing since it makes them money.

Its sad in general, and a waste of training, I could drive one myself but cant find a good reason to even have one. Personally every time I see someone driving the non jump freighter variety I think them a fool.

Also in case you haven't noticed with the rules changing soon to Isboxer there is now round the clock ganking of freighters, or at least its picked up about 100 fold. Chance? Not likely.

Just to point out, a few pages back I posted a number of carriers that were killed ratting in dek and one titan in the last few weeks. The very idea that AFK carrier ratting in dek is safe is a total myth. Naturally Veers ignored this and pushed the myth again.

I used the forum search but didn't find any mention of the higgs anchor rigs in this thread. To me it seemed like those were specifically designed as a counter to bumping. Could anybody enlighten me why they don't fill that role, since nobody suggested using them?

Oh. Yes, that might be slightly detrimental to the cause. ^^''

Its not about freighters getting destroyed.

Its about one ship being able to bump another ship with no risk to itself what so ever.


The title states it clearly Freighter bumping, not Freighters being destroyed.


Your welcome.

You can link lots of highsec kills too. The mere existence of the kills doesn't determine how safe or unsafe the space is. The fact that people are willing to AFK multibillion isk ships in Dekklein with no CONCORD around to protect them should tell you that it's pretty darn safe.

What was your point? All I'm seeing is "AFK bad." And I guess I don't really agree. I think mining should require interaction. But just moving around in highsec doesn't seem to me like an activity that should require being at keyboard. Eve shouldn't be so dangerous that moving your empty freighter through Uedama results in bumping in death. A freighter full of goodies? Maybe. But an empty one? No way.

Uh huh. A thread about bumping freighters, which is overwhelmingly done by CODE, and even to empty freighters, relates directly to the safety of highsec. And the fact that CODE is able to do it over and over and over suggests that it ain't all that hard.

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The goalposts are here, Veersie, stop moving them.

Actually, that suggests that most people fail to use the almost 100% effective tactic to avoid being bumped.

What you aren't seeing is all the people who do, and therefore don't get ganked.

So dumb people who won't defend themselves are dying. Working as intended.