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Preparation before diving into 0.0
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Vildrin
Infernal Citadel
#1 - 2014-12-04 19:42:45 UTC
I'm looking for advise while I plan my skill training. Should I train my alt or my main for the Rorqual or should I just simply use two hulks?
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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-12-04 19:46:17 UTC
Statistically 2 hulks provide a better return than a Rorqual and a Hulk. However more importantly, 0.0 is about having friends you trust. Everything in 0.0 needs protection. If you have the protection required to allow you to mine safely then diving into 0.0 will be fun.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2014-12-04 19:46:47 UTC
I thought nobody mines in null.



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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-12-04 19:47:56 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
I thought nobody mines in null.





I saw an Orca and 2 hulks on dscan in Catch the other day.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2014-12-04 19:49:24 UTC
There seems to be some disconnect between the title of the thread and your question, but I'm guessing you are heading to nullsec to mine and want to know which is better a Rorqual/Hulk combination or a Hulk/Hulk combination.

I don't mine, so this is pretty amateurish advice, but I think the Hulk/Hulk combination will probably still out mine a boosted Hulk.

Could be wrong though.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2014-12-04 19:52:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Doc Fury wrote:
I thought nobody mines in null.

Sov null has quite a number of people mining. Assuming that CCP continue on their path to strengthen nullsec industry, hopefully even more take to mining in null too.

They aren't the juiciest of kills, but when you are flying in sov null, it's very empty in certain parts. If you can come across anyone, it's worth killing.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#7 - 2014-12-04 19:54:21 UTC
Vildrin wrote:
I'm looking for advise while I plan my skill training. Should I train my alt or my main for the Rorqual or should I just simply use two hulks?


You could train a fleet of Hulk pilots in the time it takes to train one of those POS hugging piñatas. I'd do the Hulk only option.

Mr Epeen Cool
Xavier Holtzman
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#8 - 2014-12-04 20:02:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Xavier Holtzman
Vildrin wrote:
I'm looking for advise while I plan my skill training. Should I train my alt or my main for the Rorqual or should I just simply use two hulks?


If you're looking to mine, don't go to null.

Mine veldspar in high sec.

... and no, I'm not kidding or trolling ...

I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it. - Bill Frug
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-12-04 20:07:53 UTC
The skiff is the best mining ship for null. And if you are doing any kind of mining in null then a Rorqual is essential really, either your own or someone in your corp/alliance.
Vildrin
Infernal Citadel
#10 - 2014-12-04 20:08:02 UTC
I was looking to set myself up as a miner and branch out from there to other aspects of 0.0, should I focus more on the combat side of 0.0 and if I do chose to mine 0.0 just use the 2 x hulks (already trained)

Issue I have with high sec mining is that mission running is much quicker method of building Isk.
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-12-04 20:10:40 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Statistically 2 hulks provide a better return than a Rorqual and a Hulk. However more importantly, 0.0 is about having friends you trust. Everything in 0.0 needs protection. If you have the protection required to allow you to mine safely then diving into 0.0 will be fun.

A rorqual doubles yield of fleet, so a Rorqual is equal to having another hulk as the hulk will be doing double the yield. Assuming max skills and no mining drones.
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-12-04 20:14:23 UTC
Vildrin wrote:
I was looking to set myself up as a miner and branch out from there to other aspects of 0.0, should I focus more on the combat side of 0.0 and if I do chose to mine 0.0 just use the 2 x hulks (already trained)

Issue I have with high sec mining is that mission running is much quicker method of building Isk.

Mining is generally pretty terrible in terms of isk in null sec. That being said if you can somehow get a system going with an active corp alongside making sure you are protected from external threats by agreements with those around, and then using the materials you get to produce from, then you could make mining work; but it would be a very long hard road with much easier return if you go the ratting/mission/plex route.
Vildrin
Infernal Citadel
#13 - 2014-12-04 20:14:58 UTC
If I was to choose the Rorq route would you train your alt or your main for it?
Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-12-04 20:18:15 UTC
Vildrin wrote:
If I was to choose the Rorq route would you train your alt or your main for it?

It depends what you want your main to do. You get a lot of additional stuff when training the rorqual such as jump drive / drone / tanking / fleet boosting skills which could be useful on a main character.

If you are just starting though then a rorqual is a long train though so I'd recommend setting some short term goals initially.
Vildrin
Infernal Citadel
#15 - 2014-12-04 20:26:08 UTC
Not a new pilot, I've got 56 mill skill points on my main and 42 mill on my alt and this is a long term goal not a short term one, I could likely easily rat in 0.0

I've also got another alt with 32 mill (max Orca boosting pilot) not sure which account I wanted to transfer him to yet my alt or main still have 2 weeks to decide on that.)
Vildrin
Infernal Citadel
#16 - 2014-12-04 20:36:54 UTC
Thanks for the input everyone given me a few more things to consider before starting a mining plan
Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-12-04 20:39:55 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
I thought nobody mines in null.


I'm seeing you everywhere, are you some kind of troll?

"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."
Xavier Holtzman
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#18 - 2014-12-04 21:01:21 UTC
Vildrin wrote:
I was looking to set myself up as a miner and branch out from there to other aspects of 0.0, should I focus more on the combat side of 0.0 and if I do chose to mine 0.0 just use the 2 x hulks (already trained)

Issue I have with high sec mining is that mission running is much quicker method of building Isk.


If you're looking to make isk in null, mining is not the way to go.

Train up your drone skills, get a Dominix and run anomalies.

I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it. - Bill Frug
Moor Deybe
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-12-04 21:02:14 UTC
Any decent Industrial / Mining Corp in null will have fleets up 24/7 with full boosts, and nearby POSes and intel channels for your safety, so you shouldn't need the Rorqual.

I couldn't really recommend the Hulks either, they're just too squishy, and with wormholes spawning more and more these days, Procurers and Skiffs are the much more resilient and make more sense.

If you want a few corp suggestions in Outer Passage depending on where you are on the scale of 'Full Care Bear' to more PVP orientated, feel free to email me in game.

HTH
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2014-12-04 21:36:24 UTC
Vildrin wrote:
Thanks for the input everyone given me a few more things to consider before starting a mining plan


Have you considered.. I don't know.. not mining? I can think of almost nothing as boring as mining, except maybe watching off-white paint dry.. although if it was oil-based, the fumes would probably make the whole thing more enjoyable.. so I guess that's out. Snail racing might be.. no.. that gets pretty intense near the end.. Wait what abou... no.. that's just.. Theres got to be something more boring than mining.. theres.. theres just gotta..

hmm... this.. will take some thought.

I shall now construct a computer that shall calculate the answer.

42.

Nope.. 42 is much more interesting than mining. Im trashing this thing. Im starting to think that all computers once they get over a certain size and complexity will inevitably just spit out 42 as the answer.. This actually makes me a little worried for the future of star travel with the human race. I mean, we will need huge complex computers to run system operations and control the things.. and it would really suck if the AI core that is supposed to save your life just one day goes.. 42. Well that's freakin helpful! Were spiraling towards a black hole quasar particle filament borg streaming graviton wave.. how the **** is 42 helping me right now?

ANSWER MEE!!!! *slams computer*

Computer freezes. Great.. now under full gravitational quantum tidi.. I need to somehow ctrl-alt-del.. WHY ARE WE STILL USING WINDOWS ON THIS THING??!?!?!?! BSOD. Great. I guess 42 was the amount of RAM this thing had installed. Well thank you Microsoft.. I know this damn computer deserved spagettifcation, but I certainly didn't. All that's left to do is take a selfie and post to face book with a caption of "Black holes suck.". I better not forget to like my own facebook post before I become compressed into a speck of infinite smallness.. or be launched into another part of space.. could go either way I guess. Anyways, im sure itll be better than mining.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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