Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Repost HTFU just stay in one man corps and use a chat ch for your friends

Thanks for that insight.



Your experience (of 'not paying any attention to') is not the only experience of NPC corp chat. Reportedly new players in NPC corp chat are sometimes being told:

- Set skill queue then play another game
- You cannot PvP until you have 'x' amount of SP
- Everyone in EVE is out to kill or steal from you. Isolate yourself. (look at any Veers B post)
- Stay out of low sec at all costs
- Plenty of other myths and misinformation.



Corps have been wardecced for less than being flashy, ambitious or otherwise significantly noticeable. Corps HAVE been decced for as much as members talking in local. im not saying its common, im not saying its a problem. But it does happen.

There is nothing wrong with giving them somewhere to go to play together, a group name and a killboard. It enables nothing more than allowing players to group together in an organised and social fashion with just a few clicks, rather than the amount of effort it would take for them to set-up all the features they could have whilst staying in an NPC corp (collective killboard, group chat, mail list, calender etc).

I mean, it all depends on the tax rate really. If it's 0% then fine, but these will basically wipe out player PvE corps in highsec. If the tax rate is non zero, then it's better to just be in 1 man corps and roll corp in the face of wardeccs, or dock up and play on alts.

so... you mean chat channels?

This is probably true, but thats how the game mechanics encourages most high sec players to play. When most players join a corporation with other players in it, they are doing it in spite of the game mechanics, not because of them. There is no risk/reward, just risk.

The goal of my suggestion is to provide a minor encouragement to group up with others. It gives players the status symbol of a corporation. They get to feel like they belong to a group.

Then if they decide they want a POS/POCO/corporate hangars they can upgrade to a real corp.

I wouldn't touch starter corps, as they are fairly accurate lore wise. But the rest is good.


Opt-in NPC corps coulld become something like that when it comes to RP or social interests.

i do like the idea of 'opt in' NPC corps.

i have the impression this would be appreciated by CAS.

i dnt like the mechanical benefits though. If being in an NPC corp offered me better LP, why would i want to be in a player corp when i run SOE missions?

My only concern is that this will trap a lot of new players into mining/leveling their raven until they leave, because they only interact with people doing those things.

I've been saying this for a while as have some others. This needs to become a reality.

Coincide these changes with massive nerfs to the NPC corps and to these new social corps. I proposed 50% tax on all forms of PVE. That might be harsh, 30% being more reasonable, but I feel like at less than 50% the solution becomes roll an extra alt and stay in the NPC corp risk-free'.

Gevlon had a good idea too, structures that you need to defend and can only erect in a real corp that give you access to higher-tier missions and better ores. Without it doing a higher-tier mission is impossible and mining non-Veldspar turns you suspect. That could work or even an ESS kind of system which increases payouts, cycle times for mining modules, etc


NPC chat is filled up with unhelpful and elitist idiots. and you get sperglords like that Persifone guy spamming his scam attempts every 10 minutes. Its not the most motivating place to engage with other players

Social interactions happen now and they do not need a corp of any kind to occur.
If you want a private chat just open one up and invite the people you want to be in them so this idea changes nothing.
Every person I know in this game uses various Team Speak or Ventrilo voice chats for the social interactions. Based on these experiences again this idea changes nothing.

Since we can rule out social interactions as a reason for these new corps what do the offer? What is the reason people would form one of these instead of a normal player corp where they can have a POS if they want it?

For a group of players that formed a corp simply because they thought it was neat, or as some form of social club a WD is so easy to avoid that they are not a factor even with the current mechanics so I do not see how this idea would change any of that.

AWOX'ing, not sure how you would be able to prevent this from happening in these "social corps". The only way I could see would be to set them up so that corp mates cannot shoot at each other.
To be honest the whole AWOX thing is one of the biggest problems we have in this game. I talk to perhaps 15-20 newer players a month and most of them refuse to join a corp because of the risks associated withAWOX. The only idea I can come up with to solve this would be for CCP to implement a mechanic that disables all weapons and ewar systems once the ship you are shooting at goes into structure. This may be abd as well I do not know, but I do know that the AWOX thing is bad for the game as a whole.

Who decides what type of corp a player can form? If you leave it up to the players will they form one of these new corps, or choose to form a normal corp so they can have a POS at some point?

Tax, tax, tax why always tax high sec?
Higher NPC taxes will likely drive many new players out of the game before they have a chance to explore the various options so I say no to that idea.
Charging taxes in the "social corp" will make them a forgotten waste land. Most of the people who play this game on a casual basis form or join corps to avoid the NPC taxes.

To me this seem like another in the long line of proposed changes to the WD system and I do not see how it would be a positive change.
I wonder how many WD players would support it since it potentially removes large portions of the player base as possible war targets?
I wonder how the WD community would feel when the only targets they have left are the larger corps that can and do defend themselves under the current system?