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The price of heresy

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#381 - 2014-12-02 06:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
Had a spunky russian Raven pilot drive me off with a barbed whip via judicious use of drones, precision cruise missiles and a heavy neut just the other morning. I simply could not carry enough cap boosters to carry the day and had to warp off mourning the loss of four of my hob 2's.

You'll never see the big picture Veers, because there's no board for the fights that don't end in an explosion.
There's no resource out there for the ones who fought to stalemate, those who were ransomed, and those who engaged and then realized in horror what they had just done and warped off before the Inquisitor got to within scram range.

In short, without having been there there's no way you can actually understand what goes down. You have no idea what 'most of the ships' I am hitting have to bring to bear, and neither do I until they actually open up. All I start out with is a rough guess based on what their hull bonuses are and whatever info I can eke out of D-scan as I'm warping to them.

Oh, an afterthought. The reason you never see the defender having drones on the killmails is because the Inquisitor in question has to destroy those before they take out the vessel if they wish to have a chance at that happy ending. So, regardless of what they had, unless they pop with drones still in their bay they will not show up on the KM.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

ForTheEmpire2014
Doomheim
#382 - 2014-12-02 07:25:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ForTheEmpire2014
Veers Belvar wrote:
ForTheEmpire2014 wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

I like to spend my time doing PvE and accumulating wealth


And there it is, the unabridged truth. That is ALL EVE MEANS to him.
The rest is just forum fodder.

Well, now that is clear, people can actually deny you what you enjoy in this game.
No war needed:)

Better watch local closely, we all have altsTwisted


Big smileSmileShockedLolRollPirate

Do you know what irony is? This entire thread is about suspect baiting new/casual players in an attempt to harm me (a lame attempt, tbh), because it's too hard to actually come and kill me. You see the truth about the griefers in Eve, they are too cowardly to come suicide gank the tough targets, so they spend all day killing noobs. It's the lowest of the low, and it's why highsec is suffering. We don't have real villains, we have cowardly noob killers like Feyd.

Code, Marmite, Feyd, Maxxie, Cannibal Kane, Psychotic Monk, and all the rest - great at blowing hot air, spreading bravado, and killing weak noobs, but no guts to come and suicide gank tough targets. That's why all I've gotten after months of this are empty threats and some lame wardeccs....these guys don't have the courage to come gank me. It's easier to make troll forum posts and kill new players.

As for alts - I have lots of them, and can happily grind away isk on them. But I have no need to - Veers is doing fine. Cowards like Feyd are busy blowing up T1 cruisers, not bothering well tanked battleships.

#scrubs


Oh, but I am not like most ppl here. My intent isn't to destroy a ship or pod. My intent is destroy what makes the game interesting to you, as you wish to do to others by your own selfishness. This war is meta. And there is NOTHING you can do to me in that respect.

For example, to add to this thread's premise:

What if someone were to routinely pre-load the incursion sites, continually steal the objective spawns, or string out the rats for hundreds of km's, and then blame it on you? Or better yet, maybe a battleship fitted with ECM's/bursts dropping in the site and breaking all target locks and logi chains? This is all meta warfare. Would you allow your precious incursion runners to suffer for your narcissistic ranting on the forums, and your cowardly refusal to accept what Eve is? And they would know who precipitated this action, and who to excommunicate to make it stop.

And this is only the beginning of what could be done. This is Everyone-vs-Everyone (EvE).
Now it seems you wish Everyone-vs-Veers...
Beers Veldspar
Doomheim
#383 - 2014-12-02 10:01:35 UTC
He is wonderful... He has everything a man could dream...

The only thing that could miss him would be a nice tidy mustache.

Omniscient Oracle of New Eden, Incursion Hero, 6 months GCC timer advocate, Leader of bumping is bullying community, Ivy League space-lawyer, future permanent CSM member, the next level of human evolution, the epitome of modesty - Veers Belvarâ„¢

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#384 - 2014-12-02 14:43:07 UTC
ForTheEmpire2014 wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
ForTheEmpire2014 wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

I like to spend my time doing PvE and accumulating wealth


And there it is, the unabridged truth. That is ALL EVE MEANS to him.
The rest is just forum fodder.

Well, now that is clear, people can actually deny you what you enjoy in this game.
No war needed:)

Better watch local closely, we all have altsTwisted


Big smileSmileShockedLolRollPirate

Do you know what irony is? This entire thread is about suspect baiting new/casual players in an attempt to harm me (a lame attempt, tbh), because it's too hard to actually come and kill me. You see the truth about the griefers in Eve, they are too cowardly to come suicide gank the tough targets, so they spend all day killing noobs. It's the lowest of the low, and it's why highsec is suffering. We don't have real villains, we have cowardly noob killers like Feyd.

Code, Marmite, Feyd, Maxxie, Cannibal Kane, Psychotic Monk, and all the rest - great at blowing hot air, spreading bravado, and killing weak noobs, but no guts to come and suicide gank tough targets. That's why all I've gotten after months of this are empty threats and some lame wardeccs....these guys don't have the courage to come gank me. It's easier to make troll forum posts and kill new players.

As for alts - I have lots of them, and can happily grind away isk on them. But I have no need to - Veers is doing fine. Cowards like Feyd are busy blowing up T1 cruisers, not bothering well tanked battleships.

#scrubs


Oh, but I am not like most ppl here. My intent isn't to destroy a ship or pod. My intent is destroy what makes the game interesting to you, as you wish to do to others by your own selfishness. This war is meta. And there is NOTHING you can do to me in that respect.

For example, to add to this thread's premise:

What if someone were to routinely pre-load the incursion sites, continually steal the objective spawns, or string out the rats for hundreds of km's, and then blame it on you? Or better yet, maybe a battleship fitted with ECM's/bursts dropping in the site and breaking all target locks and logi chains? This is all meta warfare. Would you allow your precious incursion runners to suffer for your narcissistic ranting on the forums, and your cowardly refusal to accept what Eve is? And they would know who precipitated this action, and who to excommunicate to make it stop.

And this is only the beginning of what could be done. This is Everyone-vs-Everyone (EvE).
Now it seems you wish Everyone-vs-Veers...


Pre-loading is entertaining. If the logi are good everything is fine. And the fleets with bad logi deserve to die. Consider it a form of culling out ze stupid. There aren't really "objective spawn," so that's a no go. A sporadic ECM burst will also have minimal impact, and the rats will switch off their current target to primary it.

I don't really care if other incursion runners die...I'm worried about myself. I'm not here as part of the salvation army. They are getting ganked already....a bit more ganking would be nothing new.

And the way to do it right is 15 nados, not your other dumb ideas.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#385 - 2014-12-02 14:45:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
ForTheEmpire2014 wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
ForTheEmpire2014 wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

I like to spend my time doing PvE and accumulating wealth


And there it is, the unabridged truth. That is ALL EVE MEANS to him.
The rest is just forum fodder.

Well, now that is clear, people can actually deny you what you enjoy in this game.
No war needed:)

Better watch local closely, we all have altsTwisted


Big smileSmileShockedLolRollPirate

Do you know what irony is? This entire thread is about suspect baiting new/casual players in an attempt to harm me (a lame attempt, tbh), because it's too hard to actually come and kill me. You see the truth about the griefers in Eve, they are too cowardly to come suicide gank the tough targets, so they spend all day killing noobs. It's the lowest of the low, and it's why highsec is suffering. We don't have real villains, we have cowardly noob killers like Feyd.

Code, Marmite, Feyd, Maxxie, Cannibal Kane, Psychotic Monk, and all the rest - great at blowing hot air, spreading bravado, and killing weak noobs, but no guts to come and suicide gank tough targets. That's why all I've gotten after months of this are empty threats and some lame wardeccs....these guys don't have the courage to come gank me. It's easier to make troll forum posts and kill new players.

As for alts - I have lots of them, and can happily grind away isk on them. But I have no need to - Veers is doing fine. Cowards like Feyd are busy blowing up T1 cruisers, not bothering well tanked battleships.

#scrubs


Oh, but I am not like most ppl here. My intent isn't to destroy a ship or pod. My intent is destroy what makes the game interesting to you, as you wish to do to others by your own selfishness. This war is meta. And there is NOTHING you can do to me in that respect.

For example, to add to this thread's premise:

What if someone were to routinely pre-load the incursion sites, continually steal the objective spawns, or string out the rats for hundreds of km's, and then blame it on you? Or better yet, maybe a battleship fitted with ECM's/bursts dropping in the site and breaking all target locks and logi chains? This is all meta warfare. Would you allow your precious incursion runners to suffer for your narcissistic ranting on the forums, and your cowardly refusal to accept what Eve is? And they would know who precipitated this action, and who to excommunicate to make it stop.

And this is only the beginning of what could be done. This is Everyone-vs-Everyone (EvE).
Now it seems you wish Everyone-vs-Veers...

I approve of this product and/or service.
In extrapolation, might I recommend a scorpion for the ECM burst, and perhaps a two pronged approach involving cats and nados for not only disrupting the logi chain, but also for ganking them. I'm sure the fleet wouldn't mind at all if that were to happen. If you're lucky you might even catch the mighty Veersmobile in the process... especially if this were to happen at a most inopportune time.
I wont pay to make this happen... but I mean, at this point is money really required for the chance at a Frozen Corpse of Veers Belvar? You may be able to auction such an item for many many metal scraps... maybe even a damsel or two.
EDIT: Veers, unlike Ralph you are unwelcome in my head... however, feel free to take peeks as they'll likely scar you for life.
Fedo Bear does not approve.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#386 - 2014-12-02 14:50:28 UTC
Nah, the longer it goes without anything actually happening to Veers, the better.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#387 - 2014-12-02 14:50:46 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:


Oh, but I am not like most ppl here. My intent isn't to destroy a ship or pod. My intent is destroy what makes the game interesting to you, as you wish to do to others by your own selfishness. This war is meta. And there is NOTHING you can do to me in that respect.

For example, to add to this thread's premise:

What if someone were to routinely pre-load the incursion sites, continually steal the objective spawns, or string out the rats for hundreds of km's, and then blame it on you? Or better yet, maybe a battleship fitted with ECM's/bursts dropping in the site and breaking all target locks and logi chains? This is all meta warfare. Would you allow your precious incursion runners to suffer for your narcissistic ranting on the forums, and your cowardly refusal to accept what Eve is? And they would know who precipitated this action, and who to excommunicate to make it stop.

And this is only the beginning of what could be done. This is Everyone-vs-Everyone (EvE).
Now it seems you wish Everyone-vs-Veers...

I approve of this product and/or service.
In extrapolation, might I recommend a scorpion for the ECM burst, and perhaps a two pronged approach involving cats and nados for not only disrupting the logi chain, but also for ganking them. I'm sure the fleet wouldn't mind at all if that were to happen. If you're lucky you might even catch the mighty Veersmobile in the process... especially if this were to happen at a most inopportune time.
I wont pay to make this happen... but I mean, at this point is money really required for the chance at a Frozen Corpse of Veers Belvar? You may be able to auction such an item for many many metal scraps... maybe even a damsel or two.
EDIT: Veers, unlike Ralph you are unwelcome in my head... however, feel free to take peeks as they'll likely scar you for life.
Fedo Bear does not approve.[/quote]

The ECM is a waste of time and effort. The competent gankers just use nados. But the risk/reward is rather poor for ganking incursion runners, hence we don't see much of it. Far easier to go after AFK miners and haulers.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#388 - 2014-12-02 14:51:41 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Nah, the longer it goes without anything actually happening to Veers, the better.


Agreed! No one has done more than I have to expose the highsec griefer community as a bunch of empty gasbags. Bluster, threats, failed wardeccs, and throngs of ganking speculation...but no actual actions taken. The joke of Eve,
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#389 - 2014-12-02 14:52:39 UTC
There is that. A certain satisfaction can be had in knowing that we're keeping him bogged down in paperwork with his cookie cutter apology mails. This reminds me, I need to stop AFK cloaking and get back to work looking for the next kill it forward for mister Veers.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#390 - 2014-12-02 14:54:24 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Nah, the longer it goes without anything actually happening to Veers, the better.


Agreed! No one has done more than I have to expose the highsec griefer community as a bunch of empty gasbags. Bluster, threats, failed wardeccs, and throngs of ganking speculation...but no actual actions taken. The joke of Eve,

Wait... you're calling someone, anyone... I mean ANYONE else an empty gasbag? ROFL. Don't stop being you man, seriously. Keep on f*cking that chicken, even if there's nothing but blood and feathers left.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#391 - 2014-12-02 14:55:52 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
There is that. A certain satisfaction can be had in knowing that we're keeping him bogged down in paperwork with his cookie cutter apology mails. This reminds me, I need to stop AFK cloaking and get back to work looking for the next kill it forward for mister Veers.


I only got 2 so far...and I threw them both a bit of isk. I don't mind helping out folks who make legitimate requests for help. The vast majority think it's a troll a don't write me.

What's cute is how my response of "never PvP in highsec" always sets the agents off....you guys are so cute and predictable.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#392 - 2014-12-02 15:03:04 UTC
CODE. has agents. We have Inquisitors. Get your terminology right, as we are NOT the same crew. We will just as happily shoot at them as they will at us. CODE. makes CONCORD go all 'Avenge the innocent! YARRR!' If you listen carefully while we work you can hear the sound of a thousand CONCORD agents fapping madly to what we do.
That's right. No sec loss. The only reason I myself am no long +5.0 is that I've discovered that it's actually fun to shoot people in low sec also. I prefer highsec, because... well, CONCORD fapping.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

ForTheEmpire2014
Doomheim
#393 - 2014-12-02 15:03:12 UTC
What a comeback, Veers. You are predictable, like the annoying little dog that barks at everything and bites nothing because it runs away.
Same old tired rhetoric, me, me, me, it's all about me and to Hek with everyone else.

Boring.

You are dull, Veers. A blunted butter knife in a drawer full of swords. I prefer the moustache, really. That alter-ego at least puts some effort into his posts.

And in incursion zones, I don't have to gank anything. The Sansha have more than enough dps to kill.

Keep on trolling, see if you can take that satisfactory smirk off my face. I will keep working towards the end game. Unless you are adapting, you are dying. And I don't see you adapting at all.

ForTheEmpire2014
Doomheim
#394 - 2014-12-02 15:08:48 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ned Thomas wrote:
Nah, the longer it goes without anything actually happening to Veers, the better.


Agreed! No one has done more than I have to expose the highsec griefer community as a bunch of empty gasbags. Bluster, threats, failed wardeccs, and throngs of ganking speculation...but no actual actions taken. The joke of Eve,

Wait... you're calling someone, anyone... I mean ANYONE else an empty gasbag? ROFL. Don't stop being you man, seriously. Keep on f*cking that chicken, even if there's nothing but blood and feathers left.


"Blood and Feathers" Belvar.

NiceBig smile
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#395 - 2014-12-02 15:08:52 UTC
Pornstache for the win.
Strangely the Beers persona has less of that 'I wish uncledaddy would stop whipping me with the phone cord' look to him.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#396 - 2014-12-02 15:27:04 UTC
Grrr Veers detected
ForTheEmpire2014
Doomheim
#397 - 2014-12-02 15:28:37 UTC
Lol@ Veers confirmed
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#398 - 2014-12-02 15:44:20 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:

..
What's cute is how my response of "never PvP in highsec" always sets the agents off....you guys are so cute and predictable.

This highlights perfectly that Veers (who?) is clueless as to what he is actually talking about, so to clarify for the newbros out there (who are the real intended audience of this thread...shh!)...

'Agents' are members of CODE., a glorious organization founded by James315 on the principles of combatting the scourge of AFK mining, AFK auto-piloting freighters, or bot aspirancy in general. CODE.'s main mechanisms for interacting with their clients are bumping and suicide-ganking. Now because it is effectively impossible to prevent a well-executed gank (there is too much alpha to be countered by reps or ECM after the fact..), a common saying throughout empire is 'CODE always wins'. More info can be found here, for anyone interested in becoming an agent of CODE.

'Inquisitors of HTFU' are members of Lords.Of.Midnight, a HOLY organization founded on the principles of countering pansification movements (forum and bowel) of those calling for nerfs to non-consensual interactions in EvE. Our main mechanisms are mission-flipping and war-deccing, to provide explosive counterpoint to acts of heretical commentary. In short, for every act of heretical speech on the forums against HTFU or calls for nerfs, an innocent carebear is murdered and told the name of the pansy he can then thank for his murder. We don't go after the offender himself, we murder an innocent in his stead, resulting in the oft-heard saying in local of "GOD WILLS IT!". What's beautiful about this movement, is that the murdered heathen is then given THE OFFER, resurrected through baptismal fire (usually void s) to join the holy jihad and become an inquisitor of HTFU himself! Many have already received this salvation, and in turn embarked on their own mission to spread HTFU throughout empire; we call this, Kill-It-Forward.

tldr;
One does not need to fall into the honey-pot trap of masturbatory PVE drudgery offered by Veers and his carebear ilk, anyone can quickly learn to enjoy sploding other players ships, and so they should.

F
Beers Veldspar
Doomheim
#399 - 2014-12-02 16:44:17 UTC
The Lord of red crosses eats 3 James 315 at breakfast and has nothing to learn from sociopaths.

Keep up the good work my SwordMaster

With my entire devotion,

Beers

Omniscient Oracle of New Eden, Incursion Hero, 6 months GCC timer advocate, Leader of bumping is bullying community, Ivy League space-lawyer, future permanent CSM member, the next level of human evolution, the epitome of modesty - Veers Belvarâ„¢

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#400 - 2014-12-02 17:10:37 UTC
There are none so blind, as those who refuse to see.

(Or those who think F1'ing red crosses in any way compares to the fun a four-month-old toon soloing something like this has).

p.s.
GOD WILLS IT!

F