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A send message from the sleepers

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Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
#41 - 2014-11-29 15:09:23 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Gallenteans allows too much to their students.
Such letters could be considered a terrorism.


Hearing this from a true dictator, or simply from another peon of Heth...

What is your "opinion" then, considering it is still yours but not "his"
Eojek
Starlight Moly
#42 - 2014-11-29 21:31:12 UTC
I believe this message has the following meaning.

The sleepers are a collective conciousness and the drones a means by which the Sleepers affect the physical world. As the capsulier (egger) community has continually been assaulting the Sleeper's personal property, we can expect payback.

If the Sleepers would formally contact the various alliances and major empires, they would likely have fewer problems with having their ships torn to shreds and their computer networks infiltrated.

It is likely Sanshas nation was attacked by the Sleepers themselves.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-11-30 00:05:57 UTC
If you tell alliances, that the sleepers are even "alive sentient beings, who are asking you to stop", and at the same time represent the source of most wanted resources in the cluster, do you really think they will stop?

And why do you think they have collective consciousness? As far as I know the only collective consciousness are Sansha. In order to find out which consciousness Sleepers have, is it shared, collective or individual, we need to find actually conscious Sleeper. All what we are seeing is automated drones.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Cmdr Baxter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-11-30 00:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Cmdr Baxter
In the past the Sleepers have exhibited anomalous patterns and behavior which goes far beyond "automated drones." Just two years ago, for example, Awakened Infomorph was tracked to a Class-6 wormhole controlled by the Blazing Angels alliance. Soon after a mining operation was overrun by Sleepers emerging from an undetected spatial rift, to such a extent and in such numbers that Blazing Angels' mining crew had to call for capship support.

The same "Awakened Infomorph" had earlier 'teleported' ships through space in the New Caldari system without warning or opportunity for counter-action.

To call them "automated drones" in the face of such spontaneous, unexpected, and potentially lethal behavior does a great discredit to this potential enemy - if the ultimatum extended by Anoikis Entity is to be believed.

Commander S. "Old Man" Baxter, CN (ret.)

Chief Archivist, The Synenose Accord

Deceiver's Echo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#45 - 2014-11-30 01:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Deceiver's Echo
Cmdr Baxter:

The message, if not a hoax, is a distraction.

-Awakened Infomorph may be the instigator if the aberrant behavior seen in the earlier incident.
-Short range jump technology is no longer a mystery in New Eden.
-Sleeper Drones are in fact automated. Whether they are directed by conscious will or not is the question.
-There are other events happening in New Eden and further information slowly being released to Capsuleers that should be looked at in greater detail.

We can't change anything in regards to this message. It either presents an opportunity for further learning or it does not. Without the ability to properly verify the entity's claims, say from an announcement by CONCORD or similar authority, I will conclude it is a hoax and treat it as such. There are no actionable demands, no specific credible threats presented.

EDIT:

I have sent another message to the individual in question that should put to rest in my mind whether or not this is a hoax. It's always good to hold a few cards close to the vest when calling a bluff, non?
Cmdr Baxter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-11-30 02:13:54 UTC
Ah yes. The new short range micro-warp systems that debuted in my absence. However the reports SYNE received suggested that Awakened Informorph was able to move other ships - not their own - in the blink-of-an-eye while piloting a shuttlecraft.

Commander S. "Old Man" Baxter, CN (ret.)

Chief Archivist, The Synenose Accord

Deceiver's Echo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#47 - 2014-11-30 02:44:29 UTC
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
Ah yes. The new short range micro-warp systems that debuted in my absence. However the reports SYNE received suggested that Awakened Informorph was able to move other ships - not their own - in the blink-of-an-eye while piloting a shuttlecraft.

I saw an old Shaman make a shuttle disappear and reappear a hundred feet away when I was a child. I asked him if he really had magic, and he smiled.

He said, "What do you think, little one?"

I told him he was very good at misdirection. He winked, and patted me on a shoulder, I don't remember which one. "With enough practice, one day you'll have magic too."

That's the thing about a magic trick; it's just a trick. If it doesn't make sense at first glance, you're being deceived.

A shuttle, you see, does not have this kind of technology. Either a falsehood was said or it was not technology aboard the shuttle. I wouldn't doubt the shuttle and the pilot may have been part of a targeting system. So, your Awakened Infomorph is doing something that doesn't make sense. You are being deceived.

Deception is something I know very well.
3ll3
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-11-30 05:00:55 UTC
Interesting though insignificant as a true threat considering the sheer scale of power required to deliver on such a threat, even that of Jove would be hard pressed inspite of it's phenomenally advanced technologies to perform such a feat.
Nay I feel after logical deduction with the provided facts from the transmission, that this must be as Ms Kim put it; and I don't often find myself agreeing with the good lady that often.
That this is and i do quote:

Quote:
fake, bogus. Someone's joke



Eojek
Starlight Moly
#49 - 2014-11-30 16:37:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Eojek
Reply to Kim:

I do not believe that the various alliances assault on Sleepers will subside anytime soon but I contemplate why the Sleepers neglected a critically thought out diplomatic solution. Verbal warnings may only be to satisfy their own maxim of giving fair warning. If the Sleepers were serious about bringing an end to the overwhelming destruction of their property, like the Jove (who recognize the reality of capsuliers), the Sleepers would aggressively pursue diplomacy. It is also possible that their culture prefers force over diplomacy, or that diplomacy has been calculated as the least effective means of attaining their collective's goals.

This is also pure speculation based off a few sentences. The one claiming to be of the Sleepers used the term collective. My first impulse would be collective consciousness but after further thought, this may be a social reference in that their society works as a collective while individuals maintain their own independent personalities but work with others for a common purpose.

I wonder what happened to those who refused to enter those cryogenic tubes and hook their minds up to the sleeper's neural network.

Finally, Anoikis Entity who graduated to capsulier status two days prior to the message. She is a Gallantean with an excellent sence of humor. If you submitted the raw code, this would be good. Also from their bio:

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Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-12-01 04:24:26 UTC
I'm pretty convinced this is a hoax, though I am waiting for Deceiver's Echo to get another reply. From what I can tell everything that has been said by this Anoikis Entity can be easily verified as contextually accurate by a little research that anyone can do.

Another reason I don't believe this is a message has anything to worry about is because I don't think that sleepers would bother with a diplomatic solution, being machines. Computer logic is a simple thing. As soon as the first contact was made and outside entities were deemed to be hostile there would be a widespread campaign to neutralize said threat, us. They wouldn't sit back, silent, and watch as their fleets are destroyed and networks hacked by the thousands before making some contact if they were interested in a peaceful solution. It's all about the continued survival of the 'collective'.

Then again, perhaps that was their original intention but they concluded the probability of victory was too low against what would become the combined effort of the empires and capsuleers. If that was the case I do not believe them to be stupid enough to make contact using a source that was questionable. It would be an easily verified entity representing them that wouldn't leave more questions than answers.
Deceiver's Echo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2014-12-01 04:39:58 UTC
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:
I'm pretty convinced this is a hoax, though I am waiting for Deceiver's Echo to get another reply.

There has been no reply. I am certain this is a hoax.
Sakul Aubaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-12-10 10:38:52 UTC
I think this message has to be remembered now, while sleeper drones roaming through known space, scanning everything for informations.

They allready told us, that they will strike us, its just a matter of time.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-12-10 13:47:53 UTC
I've had Drop hallucinations more convincing than this tripe.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Joanne Breau
ST and JB Industries
#54 - 2014-12-10 14:04:34 UTC
Sakul Aubaris wrote:
I think this message has to be remembered now, while sleeper drones roaming through known space, scanning everything for informations.

They allready told us, that they will strike us, its just a matter of time.


Interesting how your grammar and sentence structuring are similar to that of "Anoikis Entity".
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