Intergalactic Summit

Remember like two years ago, when we had control of the entire warzone, and like, the Gallente had to come save you all from losing Kamela (Or Kourm, or whatever system it was, who cares)? Yeah?

Remember what a huge difference that made in the grand scheme of... oh. ****.

Shame Your state protectorate can't get any praises these days, Kim. Any ground you do gain, just remember Bohica Allows it.

Why even bother fighting for the State Protectorate? Heth managed to muddy the waters so much with his threats of nationalisation that no sane corporation would invest in Black Rise anyway! It's a disenfranchised corporation headed by a discredited political faction offering dirty money for dubious ends.

And I say this as someone who's fought on both sides of the 'Calamari War Effort' - long enough to know that the phrase is a joke. There's no cooperation. No grand strategy. Just disconnected groups at alliance size, at best. As much as I would like it not to be so, I've come to the conclusion that the Gallente/Caldari zone is largely wasted effort - there hasn't been serious Caldari investment in that area to guard since the Auctions fell through and the Gallente citizens were denied their voting rights.

It's a different story on the Amarr/Matari front, where the systems that switch sides (however regularly and briefly) actually contain colonies with populations and resources.

Not gloating at all, I apologize if you took it that way. I did tell you that Midular had it right though, so I am just reconfirming my earlier opinion.

With that said, this war isn't coming to a close. Like Ms. Starfire said, this war has gone from one extreme to the other, and it doesn't actually make much of a difference in the end....it just makes a big difference for the few people still living in this god-forsaken space.

-Eran

If your words are true and these Ishtar fleets that were slaughtered were allowed to be slaughtered, this is the worst case of incompetence I ever saw.

Please undock more.

Well, if anyone is not going to do it, might aswell be the first...

Good job in capturing Huola! Liberating a system is always a big deal, I think. I remember not a few weeks back how Huola was a hotspot for conflict, but I'm glad peace has finaly arrived.

Judging by the lack of current interest in the recapturing Huola, maybe it will remain peaceful for a while! That's good!

First, I am not a "special specimen", I am just a regular soldier.
Second, being or choosing to be a slave is against the law in the State, and I am not a criminal.
And third, freedom is the most disgusting concept human mind has developed.

Those, who want freedom can just land on some indigenous planet, leave all their possessions and clothes behind, and run into woods naked to live with animals like an animal.

I think Mr. Tuulinen (and Ms. Maxwell is free to correct me if I'm wrong) that while you may not be nihilistic inherently, your viewpoint on Black Rise (which includes it's colonies and people) is in fact nihilistic. The approach that the state of the region is either pointless or hopeless and as such simply not worth the effort is of cold comfort to the population living there. That being said the toll on our baseliner crew weights equally on my mind and I find myself deeply conflicted on the matter.

Again, Ms. Maxwell. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Sincerely
-K

My apologies, I used the term "cluster" to refer to the Black Rise region when I had forgotten, in common vernacular, it is used to describe the whole of civilized space. Forgive me that, if you will.

Indeed, Ms. Amsel, you are right. There are most definitely people living in the Rise, whether they came from outside or were born from people already inhabiting those worlds. Samanuni, Ichoriya, Onnamon, all have large populations of colonists and foreigners making their lives in the area. And that's not even considering the scattered planets whom hold native populations from before the Gallente or Caldari found a way to traverse the spacial anomalies.

The system where I was born is under constant threat of attack and occupation from the Federation. The first time they occupied my homeworld, when they left due to military pressure from the Caldari Navy, they destroyed as much infrastructure and production facilities as they could, almost crippling a world with already low resources and population. It took years to rebuild. I am a part of the Protectorate because I wish to try and prevent this from happening again. Not from a desire to see the Federation destroyed.

I still respect you. But as they stand now, I can not respect your views about my Home.

I appreciate that.

Perhaps some day, the war will end, and large swaths of the Rise will gain the protection of Concord and the Navy. But until that day comes, many will still need to lay down their lives. We may not be as numerous as the peoples caught between the Empire and the Republic, but we'll fight just as hard.