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Caroline's Star, Sansha Activity, Unusual Things - Compilation.

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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-11-29 21:44:18 UTC
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
If Nation's wormhole generation technology is malfunctioning as a result of interference from the anomaly, it could prove a tipping point in the war. Evidence collected from "Project Hydrogen Bomb" and the Battle of Yulai suggested only one or two of these devices existed.


I'm a scientist, not a soldier. So I don't know. But yes, that may be the case.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Radax Glenn
Church of the Black Hand
#22 - 2014-11-29 22:02:19 UTC
More images from today, in Etherium Reach.
Cmdr Baxter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-11-29 22:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Cmdr Baxter
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
If Nation's wormhole generation technology is malfunctioning as a result of interference from the anomaly, it could prove a tipping point in the war. Evidence collected from "Project Hydrogen Bomb" and the Battle of Yulai suggested only one or two of these devices existed.


I'm a scientist, not a soldier. So I don't know. But yes, that may be the case.

I apologize. While it's been several years since these occurred, and I recall them well, others may not be as familiar with the subject material.

The Federal Navy report on the aftermath of "Project Hydrogen Bomb," and SYNE's own AAR (issued post-Battle of Yulai) should shed more light on this matter, both as a refresher for some and a primer for others on Nation's wormhole technology.

Commander S. "Old Man" Baxter, CN (ret.)

Chief Archivist, The Synenose Accord

Ollie Rundle
#24 - 2014-11-29 23:05:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ollie Rundle
I don't think there's much evidence to suggest Nation's wormhole generation tech is failing overall.

To support my position I point to the fact that there's been no decrease in the number of incursions occuring before or during the current appearance of the stellar anomaly and there's been no discernable change in the pattern of how they initiate, establish and withdraw in regions across New Eden. Each of these parameters have remained unchanged over the course of the last three years.

It would be more accurate to say that to date the incursion in Oasa is the only one to not follow standard withdrawal protocol. The specific reason for this isolated change in protocol is poorly understood and the idea that it has to do with either a complete or partial loss of wormhole generation ability remains purely speculative.

On a sidenote, welcome back Commander. I hope your time away has been productive and, if not productive, at least relaxing.

These are interesting times, in the old proverbial sense.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-11-29 23:05:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Frenjo Borkstar
Alright, I have just launched several long-range warp-capable survey probes towards the star, and hopefully they will reach it within a reasonable time-frame. They will begin to relay information in around 3 days or so, I await their response before further research can be carried out.

Edit: Rundle, I completely agree with you, but as I said, these are just theories that are going around, not my personal views. No matter how outlandish, it's been included here.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Deceiver's Echo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2014-11-29 23:39:06 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
It would be more accurate to say that to date the incursion in Oasa is the only one to not follow standard withdrawal protocol. The specific reason for this isolated change in protocol is poorly understood and the idea that it has to do with either a complete or partial loss of wormhole generation ability remains purely speculative.

Perhaps there was a temporary reallocation of the resources needed for the withdrawal. It is a simple answer that fits the criteria outlined.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-11-29 23:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Frenjo Borkstar
Deceiver's Echo wrote:
Ollie Rundle wrote:
It would be more accurate to say that to date the incursion in Oasa is the only one to not follow standard withdrawal protocol. The specific reason for this isolated change in protocol is poorly understood and the idea that it has to do with either a complete or partial loss of wormhole generation ability remains purely speculative.

Perhaps there was a temporary reallocation of the resources needed for the withdrawal. It is a simple answer that fits the criteria outlined.


Finally, a theory which doesn't involve superweapons, or doesn't have a link to the Star.

Right, we have decided to call off the evacuation, and instead send a warning to all persons within the region of Vale of the Silent, that they need to take appropriate precautions, being that they won't have night time for a while.

A plan for evacuation is currently being formulated, and due to the kindness of Evelyn Meiyi, we are being equipped with Iteron-class hulls, and cloaking devices, at her expense, so that this evacuation can be carried out within the allotted timeframe, should it be needed.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Cmdr Baxter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-11-30 00:12:22 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
On a sidenote, welcome back Commander. I hope your time away has been productive and, if not productive, at least relaxing.

These are interesting times, in the old proverbial sense.

Indeed they are, my friend. It's good to be in space again at such a critical time.

Commander S. "Old Man" Baxter, CN (ret.)

Chief Archivist, The Synenose Accord

Robur Maximus
Sonnenlegion
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2014-11-30 00:34:20 UTC
Those more experienced in the lore, could you explain or at least guess why Sansha is retreating?
Anslo
Scope Works
#30 - 2014-11-30 00:45:03 UTC
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
Ollie Rundle wrote:
On a sidenote, welcome back Commander. I hope your time away has been productive and, if not productive, at least relaxing.

These are interesting times, in the old proverbial sense.

Indeed they are, my friend. It's good to be in space again at such a critical time.

Good to see you back.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Cmdr Baxter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-11-30 02:09:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cmdr Baxter
Robur Maximus wrote:
Those more experienced in the lore, could you explain or at least guess why Sansha is retreating?

In my experience, Sansha's minions do not retreat or give ground until their strategic goals have been achieved. When beaten in the past and unable to achieve desired goals, they wait until lower peak hours of empyrean activity before re-attacking to fulfill whatever objective their master has issued. Alternatively, in the past we have seen them use denial-and-deception tactics through conflicting and erroneous information.

The Nation also has remarkable ability to reconstitute lost forces in short order, and we know they learn from each defeat. Every crewmember aboard a destroyed ship is a clone, resurrected somewhere else to re-crew another starship. When they say "there is no death in Nation" it is meant literally. Nation has taken capsuleer technology and expanded it far broader.

Therefore I consider it more likely that a new objective was issued by their Master, which they are attempting to achieve. What that objective is, and why it necessitates use of stargates, is a mystery at present. But I doubt that one can "reallocate" a wormhole generation device so superior as to maintain a stable wormhole in the Promised Land system for over a year, while simultaneously supporting numerous active incursions elsewhere.

Commander S. "Old Man" Baxter, CN (ret.)

Chief Archivist, The Synenose Accord

Cmdr Baxter
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-11-30 02:11:03 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
Ollie Rundle wrote:
On a sidenote, welcome back Commander. I hope your time away has been productive and, if not productive, at least relaxing.

These are interesting times, in the old proverbial sense.

Indeed they are, my friend. It's good to be in space again at such a critical time.

Good to see you back.

Thanks Anslo. Lose any more carriers recently? (I jest of course. Although it's hard to forget that one evacuation incident. Blink)

Commander S. "Old Man" Baxter, CN (ret.)

Chief Archivist, The Synenose Accord

Anslo
Scope Works
#33 - 2014-11-30 02:24:07 UTC
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Cmdr Baxter wrote:
Ollie Rundle wrote:
On a sidenote, welcome back Commander. I hope your time away has been productive and, if not productive, at least relaxing.

These are interesting times, in the old proverbial sense.

Indeed they are, my friend. It's good to be in space again at such a critical time.

Good to see you back.

Thanks Anslo. Lose any more carriers recently? (I jest of course. Although it's hard to forget that one evacuation incident. Blink)


Not exactly the best greeting back I got but ok, whatever.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#34 - 2014-11-30 04:42:09 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
I don't think there's much evidence to suggest Nation's wormhole generation tech is failing overall.

To support my position I point to the fact that there's been no decrease in the number of incursions occuring before or during the current appearance of the stellar anomaly and there's been no discernable change in the pattern of how they initiate, establish and withdraw in regions across New Eden. Each of these parameters have remained unchanged over the course of the last three years.

It would be more accurate to say that to date the incursion in Oasa is the only one to not follow standard withdrawal protocol. The specific reason for this isolated change in protocol is poorly understood and the idea that it has to do with either a complete or partial loss of wormhole generation ability remains purely speculative.

On a sidenote, welcome back Commander. I hope your time away has been productive and, if not productive, at least relaxing.

These are interesting times, in the old proverbial sense.




I am thinking that the incident with Nation forces and their escape via more conventional means may not be such that their wormhole technology was disabled, but more likely that something else started coming through them or such transit mode became a liability out of some unforeseen factor or third party.

Sleepers maybe, given the new evidence of their presence in known space.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#35 - 2014-11-30 07:10:43 UTC
Mr. Wolfhammer, there's also the possible issue of speed. Gate networks aren't mass limited, while wormholes are. Perhaps the Sansha wormhole generator requires time to charge or calibrate on hole collapse. If so, it would be faster to evacuate at least some forces via gate.

Of course, this theory is predicated upon the Sansha knowing something about the bright star and wanting to evacuate the area closest to it.

We really can't know at present.

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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-11-30 10:35:45 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Wolfhammer, there's also the possible issue of speed. Gate networks aren't mass limited, while wormholes are. Perhaps the Sansha wormhole generator requires time to charge or calibrate on hole collapse. If so, it would be faster to evacuate at least some forces via gate.

Of course, this theory is predicated upon the Sansha knowing something about the bright star and wanting to evacuate the area closest to it.

We really can't know at present.


Indeed, I'll add this to the list of theories.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Aden Ordinii
Mars-Alpha Works
#37 - 2014-11-30 11:29:00 UTC
And what about the rumors that strange cristaline structures have been spot? my Astrocartrograph sensors tell me that there is nothing, also WH seams as normal as WH-Space can be cald normal.
Aden Ordinii
Mars-Alpha Works
#38 - 2014-11-30 11:36:03 UTC
But what this anomaly isent the event itself? what if it is the effect of a near by singularity? this sigularity would affect the sun in that system, the two jets are a in indication of a black hole. that could indicate that the singularity is arteficial
Taraki Orani
BERSA Shipping Trading and Mining Co.
#39 - 2014-11-30 16:34:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Taraki Orani
Aden Ordinii wrote:
But what this anomaly isent the event itself? what if it is the effect of a near by singularity? this sigularity would affect the sun in that system, the two jets are a in indication of a black hole. that could indicate that the singularity is arteficial


Thats actually logical.. This also explains the reason of that UV glare and X-ray detections..

But ıf so then we have to see a collapse soon
Kaylen Khurelem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-11-30 17:06:01 UTC
I'm telling you, the bright star isn't a star at all! There are Jovian drones following every capsuleer ship! With powerful flood lights! Making it look like there's a star!