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Wealth and Boredom - Investitures Beyond Our Purview

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2014-11-27 06:03:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
I have a battalion of security troops that I operate under license as a private security firm. Right now they're fully deployed keeping the peace in a high stress environment. That company is mostly operated by the Brigadier-General who heads the TO&E whilst I provide the money and some of the specialist know-how in multicultural security operations that's sort of become my specialty.

Most of the balance of my wealth is invested in Kaalakiota voting stock. That's an investment that's already paid dividends, I can tell you - I got in when the price dropped during the Heth debacle. Like most people I don't have the time to sufficiently educate myself on the issues enough to objectively utilise my votes for the greater good, so I have contracted them over to a professional.They are handled by the Tuulinen Foundation for a Better State, which handles those shares, my charitable interests and also maintains a robust and diversified portfolio of investments.

Until recently those investments have been solely within the State. I briefly explored the idea of investing in Minmatar Infrastructure improvement projects, but Pyre's recent deployment choices have made that more problematic, so those ideas are in abeyance. I have some investments in Empire corporations who were behind the investments in State corporations 15 years ago. Call it counter-battery fire - I at least want foreknowledge if those relationships start going sour.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-11-27 06:23:52 UTC
I invest in bars of gold-pressed platinum.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#23 - 2014-11-27 06:58:17 UTC
I tend to invest in technological developments, especially along the lines of high-grade remote electronics and signals systems. Now and then, I'll throw money at up and coming militia pilots if I see them having a run of bad luck, or old colleagues I used to know back in the Navy during my baseliner days.

But my main investment is in the infrastructure and terraforming of my home planet. There is a lot of work that needs to be done, and as one of the very few actual Capsuleers from my homeworld, I am in a position to speed that work along greatly.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#24 - 2014-11-27 09:37:59 UTC
Clothes.

That's the only one I feel comfortable divulging.
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#25 - 2014-11-27 10:07:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Gwen Ikiryo
I invest in my little fathers gambling addiction. The requests are getting bigger and bigger by the month, so I can only assume it is a growth industry.

No, but in all seriousness: I own and fund a small charity that assists disenfranchised or unemployable individuals in the State in immigrating to the Gallente Federation. It is fine that State society expects very specific things of people for them to be accepted, but it is unfair that those who are not suited to or are unable to meet those expectations are doomed to short lives of petty crime and painful instability on their homeworlds simply because they cannot even afford travel to a society where they would be better suited. I hope to alleviate the problem.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2014-11-27 16:49:53 UTC
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
I invest in my little fathers gambling addiction. The requests are getting bigger and bigger by the month, so I can only assume it is a growth industry.

No, but in all seriousness: I own and fund a small charity that assists disenfranchised or unemployable individuals in the State in immigrating to the Gallente Federation. It is fine that State society expects very specific things of people for them to be accepted, but it is unfair that those who are not suited to or are unable to meet those expectations are doomed to short lives of petty crime and painful instability on their homeworlds simply because they cannot even afford travel to a society where they would be better suited. I hope to alleviate the problem.


I suggest that your efforts might be better spent on retraining the disaffected to rejoin working society. Also, it sounds like there is much work to be done on Achura Prime.

Regarding your father, I understand that supporting him is a non-optional social convention, but have you considered putting him on an allowance? That word. Not stipend, gratuity, per diem or anything else - an allowance. You might find it dries up his requests for financial assistance.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#27 - 2014-11-27 17:07:57 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I suggest that your efforts might be better spent on retraining the disaffected to rejoin working society. Also, it sounds like there is much work to be done on Achura Prime.

Regarding your father, I understand that supporting him is a non-optional social convention, but have you considered putting him on an allowance? That word. Not stipend, gratuity, per diem or anything else - an allowance. You might find it dries up his requests for financial assistance.


Pieter,

I think you misunderstand what I mean by "unemployable". I don't mean people who have had a bad run of luck and need help to get back on their feet. I'm talking more about the incompatible - Those with mental disorders, fundamentally anti-authoritarian worldviews, and publically outed homosexuals. Not the sort of stuff you could "fix".

Also, I was mostly joking about my father. I come from a very wealthy, old family - He probably has more money than I do, albeit tied up in investments. He doesn't need my income, but he paid for my schooling to begin with and is the only reason I'm here at all, so I send him a little every month just out of goodwill. Also, so he doesn't go into my room and throw out all of my old stuffed animals.

He's going through a bit of a difficult period right now, though, and extra earnings for people in unhappy states of mind tend to be, er, not the most wisely spent.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2014-11-27 17:10:40 UTC
I don't know why I ever try to give advice on family matters. Each time I hope that I learned from the last time and the advice will be better. Each time I reveal that I just fundamentally do not understand these relationships.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#29 - 2014-11-27 17:23:55 UTC
Let me try and explain the emotional baggage involved in being part of a large, close family in way you'll be familiar with, Pieter. You worked for the Peace and Order unit - You must have been exposed to kidnappings a few times, so you're probably acquainted with the concept of "Capture-bonding", of people forming bizzarely close and usually unhealthy relationships in the context of the extreme intimacy between captor and captee. Now, most kidnappings don't last more then a couple months at most, so those sort of things must happen pretty fast, right?

Now imagine it lasting for twenty years.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-11-27 17:24:42 UTC
Nobody understands how a given family works except for members of that family. Maybe.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2014-11-27 17:40:30 UTC
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
Let me try and explain the emotional baggage involved in being part of a large, close family in way you'll be familiar with, Pieter. You worked for the Peace and Order unit - You must have been exposed to kidnappings a few times, so you're probably acquainted with the concept of "Capture-bonding", of people forming bizzarely close and usually unhealthy relationships in the context of the extreme intimacy between captor and captee. Now, most kidnappings don't last more then a couple months at most, so those sort of things must happen pretty fast, right?

Now imagine it lasting for twenty years.


Well... Yes... Generally we try to resolve issues of unlawful restraint and keeping someone against their will long before mid to long term psychological effects manifest, but I'm familiar with the concepts.

Maker's breath... Is that what families are REALLY like? I have to be honest, this concerns me greatly!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#32 - 2014-11-27 19:50:46 UTC
I invest in my caravan, of course!

Even a small, off-shoot caravan such as the Katanga needs a substantial amount of food, oxygen, and life-support maintenance to sustain the baseliner population.

Then there is the provision of services, such as healthcare, education and security. A good Master looks after their people.

And on top of those, there are the merchants who deal in basic commodities; although largely self-sufficient, they still need a place to pitch their stalls and station rents covered for their caravanserai.

Finally, the largest investment goes into the buying up of cytoserocin and mykoserocin gases.
The products that are derived from these bring enough profits to cover all our needs.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Blue spy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-11-28 10:10:27 UTC
I personally invest in triple-rated Goonswarm Federation bonds. I'm really glad that my financial advisor; also in goonswarm, was able to secure some for me.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#34 - 2014-11-28 12:39:27 UTC
Blue spy wrote:
I personally invest in triple-rated Goonswarm Federation bonds. I'm really glad that my financial advisor; also in goonswarm, was able to secure some for me.



Does he fly a titan?

Katrina Oniseki

Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#35 - 2014-11-28 12:46:49 UTC
My investments vary but I specialise in raw materials, be they basic minerals or advanced salvage from destroyed Sleeper drones. There is plenty of demand on the lower-industries, and this demand makes for good trading if you're comfortable with the ebb and flow of the market in question.

Formerly I have actually invested in capsuleers, specifically their industrial multi-tasking capabilities. By paying a portion of prospective profit to my builders, I was able to greatly increase productivity at a reasonable short-term price. Should I get the time, i may start up again, but it was certainly intensive on my spare hours; I won't be doing it again without additional help and a substantial amount of time to throw at the system.

My holdings outside the capsuleer sphere are negligible, I see no reason to dabble outside my current sphere until I either retire, or legislation makes it desirable or necessary to my continued comfort and wealth.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer

Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-11-28 15:47:39 UTC
Cybernetics. As of late, it seems like an artificial eye or even better, an arm, can be worth more money than an entire battleship.
Shae Mataar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-11-28 15:53:43 UTC
take a look at my bio. there. that should do it.

im proud of what i do, but saying more is... frowned upon...

i bring that which you fear the most

freedom

no matter what the price

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#38 - 2014-11-28 16:05:30 UTC
Commerce is my vocation.

The title of your thread encapsulates what has become the dichotomy of trade.

It is in the end the only thing to which I excel.

After a time when the desire for possessions and power fade, it becomes an end unto itself.

Nostalgia tempts, remembering the joy when the world was new and the stars weren’t red.
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2014-11-28 16:06:30 UTC
I mainly invest in the family business. Which comprises a good few things aside to military education and services. Like silk spiders. Also caritative endeavours. As the family invested in me becoming a capsuleer, it's my responsibility to reciprocate, in a way.

Next to that, as far as it concerns planetside investments, I did put some money in the building and operation of churches.

In general, I don't bother myself with acquiring wealth I have no use for, though. So I don't have the problem of having money and not knowing what to do with it.
Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#40 - 2014-11-28 17:48:15 UTC
Shae Mataar wrote:
take a look at my bio. there. that should do it.

im proud of what i do, but saying more is... frowned upon...


*Takes a look at bio*

Nothing to frown on there.
Get in touch if you're looking for work.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

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