EVE General Discussion

Please cry louder. I don't understand the part where you accuse the regular players ruining the (your?) game with this change.

As someone who owns 2 active accounts (not 12, 14, 20 or even more) I appreciate that people like you finally have to become normal again. \o/

You shouldn't have the legal possibility to use a third party tool which enables you to greatly increases your income ( I posted a comment from YT where ISboxers state to get 1.4 billion /hour to 6 billion/day). Telling me "everyone can do it" (aka cheat) doesn't change anything. Not I am ruining the game, people like you ruin the game.

I am paying for my accounts because I cannot afford spending so much time on earning isk/month and I am way below 1.4 billion isk/hour (more in the region of 20-60 million/hour).

All you do with ISboxer is earn enough isk to keep the accounts active with plex bought from the market. You don't pay cash, you only consume. Kicking people like you doesn't hurt the game. Plex will become chaeper again. Prices are already dropping (1 billion -> under 875k) and maybe at some point a regular player like me is able to purchase a plex on the market again. I plan to do this, not to pay for one ac but to use dual training.

So long and if you now cancel all your accounts:

1) Please give me your stuff
2) Go to another game and isbox there, I hope you like it (I recommend WOW)
3) Don't believe any normla player will miss you or cry because of the drop of "active" boxing accounts

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To all isboxers who are having a cry like the above botter.

- I am traveling around the universe visiting all the ice belts with a custom fitted epithal tear tanker. Please use the tanker provided and nearby barren planets will thank you.

Let the death of your playstyle green the earth.

Well, this is the most significant thing that CCP has done for 2014, the question right now if they have the balls to stand firm on it. You can definitely expect proponents against this to go on a campaign/crusade/propaganda war to either nullify or attempt to bend it to maintain status quo.

Mutiplexed automation (i.e. ISBoxing) slowly killed the game, which then degenerated into very heavy metagaming. Not to say that EVE itself doesn't involve a certain amount of metagaming, the Age of ISBoxing screwed pretty much, most of the casuals/semi-casuals players*, squeezing them out from serious competition due to the economics of scale by the very few hardcore players. This parallels in RL where megacorps transforms into shadow governments after wielding too much influence through monopolies - an effective oligarchy. Common principle, concentrating powers into the hands of the few without checks and balance, will never end well, regardless of any justifications given.

Anyway, imo, this is a good move, belatedly 2-3 years late ... but better late than never.

* defined as normal avg players (at most 2-3 accounts). When you go to extremes by having 5-10 accounts, plus an ISKBoxer account, thats no longer average.
Infact, that treads into the hardcore category.

WRONG

Players who use PLEX simply use in-game currency in exchange for someone else to pay their subscription. Why this escapes some people is beyond me.

You don't realise that you're wasting your time? Input mirroring is banned. It doesn't matter how you do it, it's not allowed. If you find some crazy work around but it has the same effect and looks the same to CCP then you will be banned. There's no point in trying to get around it. You can choose to adapt or leave.

We would like to clarify that it does not matter how Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are being done, whether through use of software or modified hardware. Our only concern is regarding how it is being used in the EVE universe.

You should learn to read. Isboxer is not banned, input broadcasting is. And you would be right to assume that if you find some way to achieve the effect of input broadcasting or something closely related through other means then CCP will enforce their rules and ban you anyway.

We would like to clarify that it does not matter how Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are being done, whether through use of software or modified hardware. Our only concern is regarding how it is being used in the EVE universe.

Would it not be correct to assume that if the developers of isboxer try to circumvent the rules of EVE online that perhaps CCP will go ahead and outright ban isboxer use altogether? If they have a way to detect isboxer being ran on a machine, that would solve many problems of detection.

Drine assit got nerfed ages ago, too 5o max, and is hardly a thign anymore

No u dont want to bann a program, as it means u allow others, u dont want to enter the slippery slope. U state what use amd actions are illegal, and that gives room too handle with new developments. Its about intent, not excact debate off words.
This is not about isboxer. Its about eve, and whats allowed and what not. I stand up and applaud this one.

They don't without implementing security measures that don't play nice with many many sorts of connections. There is no process spy worked into them other than for concurrent usage of other eve clients, and changing that would lead to many more unsubs, for much better reason. I'm sure that it can be done, and that CCP has a reasonably competent programmer who knows how to write such a thing. I also know I'mma unsub and do my best to foul the economy if such a bletcherous change happens.

As it stands, they only get the input from the client and it has a non-reporting lockout of multiple clients that only trips for trial accounts, which is the only reason I haven't already unsubbed for it having installed something usable as limited spyware.