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Just wanted to take a moment to agree with what some of the others have said, in that the new look of the Nightmare and revenant is really disappointing. Before it had a sort of muddied forest camo, that looked really good. The new shiny gunmetal look or whatever it is just looks unpainted, like flying a ship in the model viewer, before any texture has been applied.

I can understand wanting to update it to the new textures, and I'm all for that, but this just feels like going backward two steps instead of forward any.

Here's my opinion of the ships. It might go a bit over the topic at points.

Amarr - T1 subcaps fine, archon could use more gold.
- Carthum - Ark good, paladin good, absolution gold is overshadowed by the overall glossiness and mid-hull looks plastic-y, possibly too much gold on guardian top/front side, retribution wing area (the carvings on the side would look great golden with a black background), pilgrim could use a bit less gold overall too.
- Khanid - Decent amount of glossiness but for a T2 it works out as no normally shiny gold/chrome surfaces are present.
- Viziam - Not that different from T1. Just slightly darker gold.
- Navy - Not sure if I like it or not. It looks fine but white isn't just very military-ish. Harbinger looks like it's made out of plastic

Caldari - Generally fine. Chimera could use some details as it's just a grey block now. Cormorant is surprisingly shiny.
- Ishukone - Good contrast on most ships. My OCD is missing the stripe in the first block of rhea. Eagle & harpy rear are too golden and could use some details.
Kaalakiota - Good. Some hulls could use a tiny bit of weathering like the onyx has but it's ok like this too.
Lai dai - Passable. A bit dull colour scheme. Orange could have a bit more contrast with the brown on the golem front antenna. Looks good on the bustard though.
Navy - Good again. The space mud didn't fit the looks.

Gallente - Too much chrome. Glossiness overshadows the chrome details from certain viewing directions. Vexor hull top rear plating has a really outdated texture resolution. Algos has a more reasonable shininess.
Creodron - Hull glossiness makes it hard to distinguish from T1. Better than Viziam but basically just slightly darker. Eos looks like it's made 80% out of chrome.
Duvolle - Pretty good. Kronos & nemesis are really glossy but with T2 it's workable. On astarte, arazu & deimos it's less noticeable.
Roden - Pretty good. Alternating the glossy and matte surfaces brings out the details.
Navy - Good. Not even excessively glossy.

Minmatar - Ok on smaller ships but would look better with the older version of kaalakiota space mud shader on bigger ones. More colour would add to the detail as well as they're mostly different shades of rust now.
Core complexion - Black and dark gray. I'd say it's slightly too glossy again but without that there's not much detail in there. Not much difference to the T1 hulls.
Thukker - Space camo is ok.
Boundless creation - Nothing to note, works fine. The weathering at the vargur engine is a nice detail that could work on more of the minmatar ships.
Navy - Nothing to complain.

Ore - Capitals & noctis are slightly too glossy and sterile, barges could use some of the dirtiness the venture has. Exhumers and prospect can work without the dirt but a small amount of it wouldn't hurt these either.

I like it in black, myself. I seem to recall seeing a number of posts by others too, complaining that the traditional black has been faded into grey.

Contrast between matte and shiny parts of ships is fabulous with PBR, khanid and most amarr ships look wonderful.
However those which are either 100% shiny or matte feel underwhelming for some reason.

I do like the gnosis texture now!

You did the magic again with the blackbird remodel, caldari cruisers are almost all fixed ... new incursus hulls feel weird, unnecessary or too shiny.

lots of other hulls look weird or too different from how we liked them, but it's all a matter of tweaking I believe, PBR itself is amazing.

my 2 cts

Every race and model of ship looks worse.

The colours are all washed out, the lights on many hulls are broken, and the textures look even lower resolution.

The new colour scheme for the T1 Gallente ships is absolutely great. New Mega looks amazing and the reworked Incursus is magnificent - more so its T2 variants(please don't forget the specific T2 "bits").

On the other hand i am a little bit conflicted about Creodron beetle green. It seems good on Ishkur, okay on the Ishtar and less so on other ships(Sin, ugh...). I think that's because shiny beetle green just does not go well with lots of grey. Maybe some additional black and chrome instead of vast amounts of grey could fix that. Maybe try experimenting with a stripe pattern on ships like Sin?

Duvolle colours are downright sad. Their ships look really dull and the monotonous browny gray swallows all details of the ships, turning them into some funky spaceturds. As a Kronos owner i am not happy about this.

Another worry is the aforementioned loss of texture resolution/details mixed together with those strange grey dirt/space mud patches all over the ships. Thanks to this Celestis looks like a total mess, with jagged low res lines totally messing up its sides, while Brutix feels a bit too low res if one takes a look at its many lines.
While at it, please add some lights to the wheel thingy in the middle part of the Myrmidon and make those at its nose/bridge(the protruding part above the arms) shiny like the rest of the lights on this hull. This would improve the feel of the Myrm by a lot.

P.S.: about the Police Edition Kronos - it looks quite nice, but lacks a bit more white colour on the front part(maybe around the guns?) and an additional set of police lights also at the front of the ship. I am really looking forward to see this ship on TQ

I like them. They look like cyborg beetles.

I don't mind if Gallente are bright and shiny; we should be glad they don't have laser light shows and disco balls, too. (That should be the Erebus' doomsday weapon.)

The one obvious downgrade, for me, is that the blood red of Blood Raiders ships is a more washed-out brown now. The red on the SoE ships also gets desaturated, which doesn't necessarily look worse, but it's less striking.

Caldari hulls come out well, and Amarr Victor.

yer if we could maybe remove ALL the space dirt that would be good.....

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Yer, I agree that wear and tear is fine. The issue I think here is that it doesn't look like rust or grunge at all right now, but rather just a big mess that seems pixelated/Low-Q.