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[HOLY COW] Sleepers, Jovians, and the 'Other'

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Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#141 - 2014-11-24 08:30:57 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:

Some more background: the Sleepers are suspected to have created the Jovian Disease to covertly force the entirely of the Jovians to join them in their world. They left after the Jove pursued them, and escaped into Anoikis.


Uhmmm where from you got that about the Jovian Disease and the Sleepers?
As far as I'm aware of the Jovian Disease is the result of the Jovians messing too much with their genetic material.
Can you quote/clarify or you just woke up with that in your head that morning?

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Elena Morin'staal
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2014-11-24 09:00:13 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:

Some more background: the Sleepers are suspected to have created the Jovian Disease to covertly force the entirely of the Jovians to join them in their world. They left after the Jove pursued them, and escaped into Anoikis.


Uhmmm where from you got that about the Jovian Disease and the Sleepers?
As far as I'm aware of the Jovian Disease is the result of the Jovians messing too much with their genetic material.
Can you quote/clarify or you just woke up with that in your head that morning?



Read Templar One. It contains the origins of the sleepers, the creation of the dustbunnies and all kinds of stuff.

I just finished reading it at 0200 last night, over the last few days the only thing that has stopped me reading it has been the missus (nudge nudge wink wink). Hell, I've been reading it at work with kindle app!

Its amazing, I NEED more eve novels. MORE.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#143 - 2014-11-24 15:01:49 UTC
it's nice to see people who are hopeful enough to dream up a grand story to explain a picture blog.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#144 - 2014-11-24 19:49:27 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Just an observation, but entities like sleeper ships and rogue drones that have manipulator appendages could only use them for two things.

1: Building something.
2: Taking something apart, but not destroying it.

Either of which could be quite disturbing.

I've had Jovian body parts for years, and now find out that apparently I've missed my opportunity to do something with them. Cry




3. Scratching themselves

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#145 - 2014-11-24 21:11:46 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Just an observation, but entities like sleeper ships and rogue drones that have manipulator appendages could only use them for two things.

1: Building something.
2: Taking something apart, but not destroying it.

Either of which could be quite disturbing.

I've had Jovian body parts for years, and now find out that apparently I've missed my opportunity to do something with them. Cry

Sorry if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain the resource drop is still open in Eram- I deposited an Epidermis Sliver, and I may do more.

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#146 - 2014-11-24 21:25:20 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
it's nice to see people who are hopeful enough to dream up a grand story to explain a picture blog.

It's called theory-crafting and extrapolation from previously provided information P

I may not be right about this altogether, but I'll be damned if this has nothing to do with the official narrative of New Eden so far P

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Ilaister
Binary Aesthetics
#147 - 2014-11-25 00:04:40 UTC
We've not yet explored how the sudden appearance of the Sleeper's caches in k-space tie in.

The structures you find in the deadspace pocket are all damaged. The gigantic structure meant to keep the cache cloaked has been wilfully .. well.. blapped seems a good term if you look at the size of the hole that's been ripped in it. Though from weapons/sources unknown.

The storage structures when you get inside have all also been either damaged, or are described as being raked through, gone over in a hurried search for something.

Do we have any idea who or what would have the resources and the motivation to do this?

Why would the Sleepers care one way or the other what the rest of lesser-developed humanity has been up to to the point they start collecting the crap we make?

We know the architects and sleepers are sub-factions of what we call the Jove, architects being the progenitors of gate travel, sleepers providing the theory and from what you can surmise from the blue loot they drop, the drive to get out of the New Eden cluster to somewhere else. Perhaps back to Earth. Maybe just into Anoikis.

If the Sleepers were escaping a vengeful Jove Empire for their misguided attempt to pull the entire civilsation into VR though, how do the Talocan figure?

Sleeper structures are entwined with Talocan ones, everything in W-space points to some kind of outbreak/containment/cultural exchange going on but I've seen nothing in any lore, or novel to explain where they fit in to this. Maybe they assisted the Sleepers in containing the Jovian disease (as opposed to the Sleepers creating/forcing it on the Jove) but then, why would Garious be against them? And if the Jove are against the Sleepers why the **** would the SOE turn the capsuleers against them?

Personally I haven't the faintest scooby doo wtf is going on but I can't wait to find out.

Ilaister
Binary Aesthetics
#148 - 2014-11-25 00:06:14 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
it's nice to see people who are hopeful enough to dream up a grand story to explain a picture blog.

It's called theory-crafting and extrapolation from previously provided information P

I may not be right about this altogether, but I'll be damned if this has nothing to do with the official narrative of New Eden so far P



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Raviel Oxidans
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#149 - 2014-11-25 01:55:51 UTC
isnt that picture the legendary sleeper dreadnought?
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2014-11-25 12:20:01 UTC
Haha time for Enheduanni!
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#151 - 2014-11-25 12:24:00 UTC
Raviel Oxidans wrote:
isnt that picture the legendary sleeper dreadnought?


Or a sleeper supercarrier that will used to invade New Eden

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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#152 - 2014-11-25 14:17:02 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom.

http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png



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Anslo
Scope Works
#153 - 2014-11-25 14:51:35 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom.

http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png


What in the ever loving **** is that?

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Panda McLegion
#154 - 2014-11-25 15:59:35 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
Actually I did try messing around with the cloaky thing. Whatever it is, it sure is pointy at the bottom.

http://i.imgur.com/NqKcpaS.png


What in the ever loving **** is that?


I think it's one of these... http://blenderartists.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=245772&d=1373592088&thumb=1

Didn't we need another race to fill out the mystery 4?

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Lord Ra
Sicarius.
#155 - 2014-11-25 22:03:00 UTC
Razor Blue wrote:
http://now.eveonline.com/image/103040287158

Oh my god.
The picture of the cloaked thingy is actually one of those stereogram pictures.
Just keep staring at it and focus your vision to the back of the screen and you'll see *it*.




When i tilt my monitor so it darkens slightly i can see a face to the right of the alleged structure with an arm in the air : /



And i don't even smoke whacky backy...
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#156 - 2014-11-25 22:07:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Anonymous Forumposter
[Game News] Directive Enforcement Department: "Unusual Nation Activity In Oasa"

BREAKING NEWS - CONCORD's Directive Enforcement Department has released a revised security alert for CZ-06R, a constellation in the outer region of Oasa. In the update, issued during the last hour, the DED cited unusual and unexplained activity of Sansha's Nation incursion forces as the cause for the revised alert.

A number of independent security forces have reported that earlier this week a large scale incursion of Nation's True Power division emerged in the CZ-06R constellation. They further report that for some six days the incursion fleet has controlled the area with no contest from local capsuleer forces. Despite their overwhelming superiority in the constellation, observers reported that Nation forces abruptly began evacuating star systems without using wormholes at approximately 13:45 Eve Standard Time today.

After issuing the revised alert, Brigadier General Odo Korachi of the DED's Genesis Fleet assured the assembled press that all avenues of investigation are being explored to ascertain the reason for the sudden disappearance of thousands of hostile True Power vessels. General Korachi added: At this time, we are unsure if this change in the normal pattern of a Nation incursion is an attempt at luring curious pilots into the area in order to stage a large scale ambush, or if there are other reasons for the withdrawal of True Power forces from CZ-06R. We advise all pilots to remain clear of the area until a thorough investigation has been conducted.

Scope News has confirmed with CONCORD sources that substantiated reports from cargo runners and caravan pilots describe large numbers of Sansha's Nation vessels rapidly leaving the constellation using both the regional stargate network and off-grid deadspace stargates known to the local smuggler community. Several of these reports agree that the Nation fleets were heading out of Oasa and into the Cobalt Edge region.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#157 - 2014-11-25 23:26:14 UTC
@Anon

I read that- and from what we can see so far, it seems like the Sansha are becoming aware of something going on with the wormhole tech they use. If the sleepers are assuming direct control of them (I'm almost positive now that those beacons and urns on the sleeper ships are wormhole generators) than they have a it of trouble in their future too- things are about to heat up big timeSmile

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#158 - 2014-11-25 23:33:47 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
@Anon

I read that- and from what we can see so far, it seems like the Sansha are becoming aware of something going on with the wormhole tech they use. If the sleepers are assuming direct control of them (I'm almost positive now that those beacons and urns on the sleeper ships are wormhole generators) than they have a it of trouble in their future too- things are about to heat up big timeSmile

So what are the chances Sansha getting stranded on the wormholes when their tech refuses to work and incursions get replaced with Sleepers wrecking **** and taking over systems if they're not driven out?

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Ilaister
Binary Aesthetics
#159 - 2014-11-25 23:36:17 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
Raviel Oxidans wrote:
isnt that picture the legendary sleeper dreadnought?


Or a sleeper supercarrier that will used to invade New Eden


Seems like you might have called it.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#160 - 2014-11-26 07:02:46 UTC
To me the cloaked structure has the same design than a jovian station

Will try photoshop too

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