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Big Nidd

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Auvergne Emir
The Spam Warp PVP Corp
#1 - 2014-11-22 06:19:56 UTC
All stations and capital ships sizes need rescaling please Big smile

Carriers need to be bigger; jumping from my Nado into a Nidd just looks wrong in terms of scale.

There just doesn't seem to be enough wow factor anymore. Make it BIG. Pirate

(even titans are pretty underwhelming in 2014)

And then you have new concrete to work with when CCP reinvents CTs Cool
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-11-22 06:38:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
Auvergne Emir wrote:
All stations and capital ships sizes need rescaling please Big smile

Carriers need to be bigger; jumping from my Nado into a Nidd just looks wrong in terms of scale.

There just doesn't seem to be enough wow factor anymore. Make it BIG. Pirate

(even titans are pretty underwhelming in 2014)

And then you have new concrete to work with when CCP reinvents CTs Cool


Considering the nado has a half-kilometer height, I think you may be misunderstanding the ship sizes.

Carriers are around 1.5 times the size of standard star destroyers in Star Wars. A condor is 7 times the size of an X-wing. Even small drones are almost the size of an X-wing.

Everything in eve is pretty big. Titans are comparable to the Executor, the largest (that I am aware of) vessel in Star Wars.

(Sorry for the star wars usage, but stuff in Eve seems inherently smaller than it actually is since all you see is yourself piloting it, and battlecruisers/battleships are not difficult to fly in comparison to capital ships, but are actually pretty comparable in size. )

If you are referring to increasing the size of the nid by like 1km, yeah, that could make sense. But it still will be pretty small compared to BCs/BSs, just like all carriers.

Barghest is actually 3/4 the size of the nid. Pretty crazy how big that BS is.

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#3 - 2014-11-22 07:13:20 UTC
The common rifter, produced in swarms and generally thought tiny and cute, is the size of the lovely 74-flipping 7. It is purely an issue of internal scaling, but no good method of re-scaling exists that does not nerf capitals. On second thought, rescale them, rescale them all night long.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp

Aroused Missile
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-11-22 07:13:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Aroused Missile
I agree station are WAY TO ******* SMALL. I somewhat agree that some Titans looks kinda small(the avatar needs to be stretched length wise)

Regarding 0.0 stations

Amarr factory. (Very nice but needs to be 3-4X larger)
Caldari (interesting look but needs to be double the size)
Gallente station (never been a fan of its appearance, but also needs to be double the size)
Minmitar station (what was the developer thinking? It's like a run down stip club box from the depths of the Internet)
Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-11-22 08:07:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
I do agree on bigger stations though. Would be nice for Jita undock to be a lot less crowded.

Look at the death star, that thing is 160km in diameter or something. That's like 10 titans.

TunDraGon ~ Low sec piracy since 2003 ~ Youtube ~ Join Us

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#6 - 2014-11-22 08:34:17 UTC
With the amount of crap Jita 4-4 is holding, the damn thing should take up the whole solar system. Or at least be the size of a large moon.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Auvergne Emir
The Spam Warp PVP Corp
#7 - 2014-11-22 08:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Auvergne Emir
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:


Look at the death star, that thing is 160km in diameter or something. That's like 10 titans.


Precisely. That's what I'm talking about. Since you brought StarWars into it;

Super StarDestroyer = Titan
StarDestroyer = Carrier/Dread
somewhere in the middle = Super Carriers
Millenium Falcon?? = BC? Cruiser?



Super StarDestroyer plunging into Death Star - size of a splinter - more like it.
Millenium Falcon sitting on back of radar mast of StarDestroyer in Empire - tiny tiny - more like it.



You get the idea LolUgh
Auvergne Emir
The Spam Warp PVP Corp
#8 - 2014-11-22 08:37:23 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
With the amount of crap Jita 4-4 is holding, the damn thing should take up the whole solar system. Or at least be the size of a large moon.


haha Big smile

'That's no moon, that's a shopping centre' - Obi Wan
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#9 - 2014-11-22 09:48:22 UTC
Auvergne Emir wrote:
All stations and capital ships sizes need rescaling please Big smile

Carriers need to be bigger; jumping from my Nado into a Nidd just looks wrong in terms of scale.

There just doesn't seem to be enough wow factor anymore. Make it BIG. Pirate

(even titans are pretty underwhelming in 2014)

And then you have new concrete to work with when CCP reinvents CTs Cool

capital ships (and bs) don't feel any bigger than smaller ships when you're flying them. i wonder if using some sort of camera effect could make them feel bigger? i think a big part of them feeling the same is the camera changing its minimum distance by ship class

also, maybe capitals having higher resolution textures will make them look bigger? i wonder if that's technically possible
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#10 - 2014-11-22 12:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Abrazzar
All scaling and proportions could use a re-investigation. That includes stars.

Edit: Found an image I made that changed the sizes of the Amarr carrier and supercarrier.
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#11 - 2014-11-22 13:54:41 UTC
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-11-22 15:02:58 UTC
A Navy Comet next to an NPC Megathron zoomed out. You can barely see the comet compared to the Megathron.
Eryn Velasquez
#13 - 2014-11-22 15:18:52 UTC
a normal carrier has a ship maintenance bay of 1.000.000 m³. Is there a special technology used which allows 2 battleships to be stored inside?
Because every battleship's volume exceeds this.

_“A man's freedom consists in his being able to do whatever he wills, but that he should not, by any human power, be forced to do what is against his will.” ― Jean-Jacques Rousseau _

Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-11-22 17:46:41 UTC
The current large size of capital ships as is, creates a lot of issues. Scaling up the size of large ships and stations would exacerbate bumping, alignment, cyno, fleet warping, and pos problems, without providing any benefit to the game other than "Nice. Things look bigger. But they're not big enough, accurate scale please"
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-11-22 17:53:47 UTC
Eryn Velasquez wrote:
a normal carrier has a ship maintenance bay of 1.000.000 m³. Is there a special technology used which allows 2 battleships to be stored inside?
Because every battleship's volume exceeds this.



Assembled ship volumes (x1000m3)
Scorpion 468
raven 486
rokh 486

armageddon 486
apocalypse 495
abaddon 495

dominix 454
megathron 486
hyperion 495

typhoon 414
tempest 450
maelstrom 472

All navy variants: Same as tech 1. <496
All tech 2 variants: Same as tech 1. <496

Bhaalgorn 486
Nestor 486
Nightmare 486
Rattlesnake 486
Vindicator 486


COMPLETE LIST of battleships that exceed 500k m3:
Barghest
Machariel


If you could actually do the tiniest bit of research before crying for balance to a problem that does not exist, that'd be great...



Serene Repose
#16 - 2014-11-22 20:32:12 UTC
EYE CANDY, and PRONTO!!
OOPS!! I seem to have an arrow in my knee!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2014-11-22 20:56:16 UTC
Auvergne Emir wrote:
All stations and capital ships sizes need rescaling please Big smile

Carriers need to be bigger; jumping from my Nado into a Nidd just looks wrong in terms of scale.

There just doesn't seem to be enough wow factor anymore. Make it BIG. Pirate

(even titans are pretty underwhelming in 2014)

And then you have new concrete to work with when CCP reinvents CTs Cool

EVE needs a supertitan. does nothing, except dwarf all other sci-fi ships ever, on comparison charts.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-11-22 21:25:07 UTC
I will not be satisfied until supercarriers have their own moons.
Iain Cariaba
#19 - 2014-11-22 21:25:56 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Auvergne Emir wrote:
All stations and capital ships sizes need rescaling please Big smile

Carriers need to be bigger; jumping from my Nado into a Nidd just looks wrong in terms of scale.

There just doesn't seem to be enough wow factor anymore. Make it BIG. Pirate

(even titans are pretty underwhelming in 2014)

And then you have new concrete to work with when CCP reinvents CTs Cool

EVE needs a supertitan. does nothing, except dwarf all other sci-fi ships ever, on comparison charts.

This, so totally this.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2014-11-22 21:28:42 UTC
10x the dimensions of a titan. so 1,000x the volume. and materials.

what. I didn't say it should be easy.
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