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New dev blog: A Very Merry Fleet Fight

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-12-15 15:48:50 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
CCP Goliath is one of the people who worked the hardest to put together the recent Dev Caravan events and now he's written a dev blog about our goals and our experiences which mostly consisted of dying horribly at the hands of people who really know how to play this spaceship game.

Thank you all for the fun and for the schooling.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

JamesCLK
#2 - 2011-12-15 15:56:55 UTC  |  Edited by: JamesCLK
Whoop \o/

I understood people made claims of T2 BPO's but it seems that myth has been dispelled? :)

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-12-15 15:56:57 UTC
first?

edit:.... nope Sad

No Worries

Tore Vest
#4 - 2011-12-15 16:04:09 UTC
Nerf bombers Bear

No troll.

Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
Paragons Of Virtue
#5 - 2011-12-15 16:04:15 UTC
Hopefully this will shut up all the people who don't realize that killmails can't tell the difference between a BPO and a BPC.
CCP Masterplan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2011-12-15 16:06:26 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Masterplan
It was an honour to die by your lasers. Thanks to everyone who took part.

Taedrin wrote:
Hopefully this will shut up all the people who don't realize that killmails can't tell the difference between a BPO and a BPC.
As of the Crucible release, they can: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=395596#post395596
Though it relies on killboards being updated to show the new Original/Copy flag.

"This one time, on patch day..."

@ccp_masterplan  |  Team Five-0: Rewriting the law

Nirnaeth Ornoediad
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-12-15 16:08:23 UTC
I'm glad you learned the value of pointing, logistics, and bubbling bombers.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).

CCP Legion
#8 - 2011-12-15 16:08:32 UTC
These were fun indeed, hopefully everyone enjoyed them as much as we did!
Special thanks to those who rose up to defend us devs, makes us feel that little bit warmer inside Bear

@CCP_Legion | Producer

Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#9 - 2011-12-15 16:09:05 UTC
You should go out to non-incursion space and conduct some real-world titan tracking testing.
CCP Tenitigo
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2011-12-15 16:12:30 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
These were fun indeed, hopefully everyone enjoyed them as much as we did!
Special thanks to those who rose up to defend us devs, makes us feel that little bit warmer inside Bear


Are you sure that warm feeling wasn't from your overheated lasers on Friday? Lol

I had a great time this weekend. Thank you to everyone who took part Smile
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-12-15 16:14:43 UTC
It was a pleasure podding you :D
Axel Greye
Unlikely Suspects
#12 - 2011-12-15 16:14:52 UTC
awwwh no stats for the stats gods this time? Cry
Gogela
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-15 16:17:01 UTC
CCP Phantom's dead and frozen body... now on sale!

Was fun. Thanks for all the fish!

Signatures should be used responsibly...

CCP Affinity
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2011-12-15 16:19:45 UTC
I had soooo much fun!! Thanks guys :)

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CCP Necrogoat
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2011-12-15 16:31:14 UTC
I love space murders.

Software Engineer | Team Shapeset

Xtover
Cold Moon Destruction.
#16 - 2011-12-15 16:48:37 UTC
Ravcharas wrote:
You should go out to non-incursion space and conduct some real-world titan tracking testing.

I don't think the devs understand those words in that order. Sad
CCP Paradox
#17 - 2011-12-15 16:54:38 UTC
Very special thanks to those who helped develop the CCP Defense fleet. While the first day was a bit of a fail, I think we made progress in the next few events. Hopefully for any future PvP live event, we can have some system in place to get you guys to truly fight alongside us.

To the people I fought with, thanks!
To the people I was killed by....thanks too :) Had a lot of fun.

CCP Paradox | EVE QA | Team Phenomenon

Space Magician

CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2011-12-15 16:59:45 UTC
This was so much fun! Thank you to everybody I killed (mehehehe)

okay, also thanks to those who killed meBlink

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis

Shad0wsFury
Forbin's Undergarment Trading Company
#19 - 2011-12-15 17:01:56 UTC
I have two very srsbusiness non-trolling (see: uncharacteristic) questions to ask of CCP.

Through your experiences PvPing with each of the races of EVE, have you come to better understand some of the balance issues present currently in EVE, and what are your feelings on said balance issues?

Secondly, were there any moments of enlightenment among those at CCP who are less experienced with PvP about how things like fleet composition and doctrine work?

CCP folks have now all had a chance to get their feet wet with each race, and experience the benefits and drawbacks of each, as well as an opportunity to learn a bit about fleet composition and doctrine, and I'd really like to know what the general feeling of the dev team is regarding game balance after having this experience.

Personally, I'd really like to see more variety in EVE with fleet doctrines. Over the past few years, I have seen PvP turn into mostly an exercise of bringing the EXACT ship or ships that a fleet doctrine is built upon. Part of the outcome of that is positive, in the sense that ships are diverse and some can do certain things decidedly better than others can, but part of that outcome is negative, because it leaves very little variety for the player. I love my Abaddon, but there are/were times where I got pretty sick of looking at it over and over again, because for PvP to work on the ELITE level of PL, fleet doctrines are very reliant on having EVERYBODY in the correct ships. Because there is so much range of performance of tanks and weapon systems between races and even tiers of ships within races, PvP is quickly becoming a very uniformed exercise.

I see in EVE a great attempt at keeping variety and identity between the races, but in practice I see it further stagnating variety by essentially forcing people to use specific ships for specific doctrines, because there is literally nothing else available that can do what the chosen ship for that doctrine can do. While races shouldn't ever become EXACTLY alike, there should be some middle ground somewhere where there is come crossover, so people aren't cornered into flying one specific ship or race of ships for a given fleet doctrine.
Zagdul
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-15 17:06:19 UTC
Please, ignore the people who rage about missing this.

Continue to do it. It's unique and something that really can only be done in this game.

The only suggestion I have is that CCP Alliance actually start to function and act as one. Don't stop with simply roaming. Keep at what you're doing and go full force with it.

-Use your sov space
-Grind the isk up to buy your ships
-Build or purchase your ships. You guys need to see how the manufacturing is in EVE.
-Run moon reactions to generate an income.
-Create a reimbursement program and try to find ways to keep CCP alliance floating and it's member base happy.

etc. etc. etc...

Basically, play the game so you can experience our frustrations first hand.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

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