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Can you make the multisell thingy the thing it was meant to be please?
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Miranda Shoota
Leviathan Investment Group
#1 - 2014-11-18 12:46:03 UTC
I am trying this thing for the first time since it was released because I now have a bunch of **** to sell that I don't need to put up orders for....

Select all.. sell.. sell... that's what's meant to work now right?

Nope, not enough order slots.. How to get around this? You guessed it! Clickfest time!

Thanks, working as intended and all I hope.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#2 - 2014-11-18 12:51:41 UTC
Miranda Shoota wrote:
I am trying this thing for the first time since it was released because I now have a bunch of **** to sell that I don't need to put up orders for....

Select all.. sell.. sell... that's what's meant to work now right?

Nope, not enough order slots.. How to get around this? You guessed it! Clickfest time!

Thanks, working as intended and all I hope.


Train the relevant skill - get bonus slots.

Working as intended.

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Miranda Shoota
Leviathan Investment Group
#3 - 2014-11-18 12:54:27 UTC
Yeah nevermind. I think I went about this the wrong way. I expected a functionality improvement, not a slightly fancier look.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-11-18 13:00:13 UTC
It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.

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brutalbutneutral
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
#5 - 2014-11-18 13:01:48 UTC
Maybe instead of showing info when clicking the item, show the marketorders for that item.
Jvpiter
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-18 13:04:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jvpiter
I think it would be helpful to have some commas for the ISK amounts which are already quite small in size and hard to read.

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Miranda Shoota
Leviathan Investment Group
#7 - 2014-11-18 13:05:34 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.


Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-11-18 13:07:43 UTC
Miranda Shoota wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.


Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P


No.

And that's the whole point.

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Ama Scelesta
#9 - 2014-11-18 13:12:56 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Miranda Shoota wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.


Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P


No.

And that's the whole point.

What point? That people who aren't trade focused can't actually take full advantage of the feature? It really shouldn't matter what your trade skills are, if you're only going to do immediate sales. Skills should only matter, if you place orders with duration.
Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-18 13:13:27 UTC
what makes this tool awkward for me, hence not using it, is that from the mass listing screen, you can't (or i can't figure out how yet) look up market status/prices for each item. (to know what price you want to sell at - and yeah, you'd be stupid to use the red/green avg if you're in business).

So, I find myself having to use the item hanger as per normal to right click and see price ... which makes me think, might as well do the whole thing tyhe old fashioned way as when selling more than a few items its easy to loose where you are in the list.

So, yeah ... cool upgrade, if you're not watching your bottom line and just want to sell your junk. Not really that handy for the commercial producer (unless they know their market prices movement by heart).

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Square PI
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-11-18 13:46:30 UTC
Leannor wrote:
what makes this tool awkward for me, hence not using it, is that from the mass listing screen, you can't (or i can't figure out how yet) look up market status/prices for each item. (to know what price you want to sell at - and yeah, you'd be stupid to use the red/green avg if you're in business).

So, I find myself having to use the item hanger as per normal to right click and see price ... which makes me think, might as well do the whole thing tyhe old fashioned way as when selling more than a few items its easy to loose where you are in the list.

So, yeah ... cool upgrade, if you're not watching your bottom line and just want to sell your junk. Not really that handy for the commercial producer (unless they know their market prices movement by heart).


You do know that you can click in the nice red/green icon and get to the item in the market place this way, dont you?

It is really easy and fast to check the prices for all items in the sell window.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#12 - 2014-11-18 15:15:50 UTC
Miranda Shoota wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
It is a functionality improvement. Especially for people looking for an immediate sell instead of putting up sell orders. It was never added with the intention of removing the requirement of trading skills for multiple sell orders. Lrn2EVE.


Because the people who look to immediately sell 56000589 items are also the people who max the trading skills =P


My trading alt feels the same way... he wants to target and shoot all the things with one click but has trading skills instead.

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Leoric Firesword
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-11-18 15:22:15 UTC
set it to sell your items immediately, rather than setting up sale orders, BOOM everything that can be sold immediately is, everything that can't goes back to your inventory (at least that's how it worked for the 400 items I sold the other day. and I can only have ~ 100 orders)
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-11-18 19:09:08 UTC
No, if you want to sell 50 items at once you need 50 orders at once.

However, it is annoying to only sell half of a given item, it'd be nice to have a checkbox which defaults the sell price to whatever it needs to be to sell ALL of the stack.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-11-19 00:03:53 UTC
Does the skill take into account immediate sell order or only ones that take time when using multi sell?
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#16 - 2014-11-19 01:01:50 UTC
You should be able to sell 100 stacks immediately, regardless of skills.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-11-19 02:32:43 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
You should be able to sell 100 stacks immediately, regardless of skills.


You can, I do it all the time, no trade skills on Rem at all except contracting.

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#18 - 2014-11-19 14:35:25 UTC
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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#19 - 2014-11-19 15:51:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Primary This Rifter
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
You should be able to sell 100 stacks immediately, regardless of skills.


You can, I do it all the time, no trade skills on Rem at all except contracting.

So does OP just want to use multisell to place sell orders at his own prices and bypass the sell order limit? If so then yeah, he's dumb for thinking that that was going to happen.

At first thought he was complaining about what I was originally complaining about when Phoebe was first released which was that you couldn't use it to place more immediate sell orders than your skills allow for sell orders. It makes sense that you should be allowed to, because you're not really placing sell orders with "immediate" orders, you're just completing buy orders. CCP agreed and implemented the change that allowed you to sell 100 stacks immediately regardless of skills. So I was just confused because I thought he was complaining about something that's already been fixed (and which worked for me when I tried it).
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#20 - 2014-11-19 16:02:56 UTC
Agreed. There is a definitive difference between creating a sell order and completing someone's buy order. Needing free sell order slots equal to the number of items you want to complete buy orders with is absurd. This new feature compounds this issue. Before you could only sell one item at a time so you only ever needed one open sell order slot. Now you need one for every single item type.

I think the problem was that if there were no buy orders, it would automatically create a sell order at regional average. I'd rather have this feature gone and be able to complete buy orders without the need for sell order slots. If my intent was to just settle for people's buy orders for the sake of getting isk now instead of later, then I'd sooner just reprocess items for which there are no active buy orders and sell the minerals to get the isk now.

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