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TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#81 - 2014-11-19 00:16:46 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
A Caldari complaining about the military-industrial complex.

Well, now I really have seen everything.


Federation aggression against anyone or anything they decide is a national secuirty risk, wether it breaks legal treaty or not is problem.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#82 - 2014-11-19 00:41:59 UTC
Says the supporter of a regime that broke international treaties.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2014-11-19 00:45:34 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Says the supporter of a regime that broke international treaties.


We altered the deal. Pray we do not alter it further.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#84 - 2014-11-19 01:47:11 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
Says the supporter of a regime that broke international treaties.


We altered the deal. Pray we do not alter it further.


Perhaps they feel they are being treated unfairly?

It would be unfortunate if we had to leave another garrison there.

Katrina Oniseki
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#85 - 2014-11-19 01:51:43 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
Says the supporter of a regime that broke international treaties.


We altered the deal. Pray we do not alter it further.


Perhaps they feel they are being treated unfairly?

It would be unfortunate if we had to leave another garrison there.


This deal keeps getting better all the time.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#86 - 2014-11-19 08:17:11 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Foiritan?.. The president, under whom Noir rammed our station, under whom gallentes were racially attacked Caldari citizens on Caldari Prime, under whom gallente police was beating Caldari protesters, under whom hidden Caldari POWs prisons were found in Black Rise, where they were tortured, and this is the presiden, who started the war to take our Black Rise. Must be detained, sentenced and executed.

Roden?.. The president, under whom the most atrocious war crime against humanity was committed, the so called "operation Highlander", that killed millions and scarred our planet for thousands of years. Must be detained, sentenced and executed.

Blaque?.. I have no idea who is this guy, but he sounds gallentean and probably gallentean politician of high rank. I have no idea what he did, so he must be detained and investigated thoroughly. And maybe executed as well.


Blaque. Head of the Black Eagles, who are clandestine operatives with a mausoleum of skeletons. If any Gallente citizen with sympathies for the Caldari disappears overnight, high chances are it's Black Eagles doing. This guy is the sort of fellow who would give the go-ahead to orbital-bombard Caldari Prime were he around in the position of command during the first Gallente-Caldari War. Stinks of U-Nat through and through.

So, a typical gallentean.
Thanks, but I could have guessed it by his origin.

Elmund Egivand wrote:

Seriously, why am I even telling you this? You do not even know this man? You kept saying you want to destroy the Federation but you do not even bother to at least know who is who in the Federation, how they operate, the details of their culture, their mentality, their stratagem and the who she-bang. You can't hope to destroy your hated foe if you didn't take any steps to know everything there is to know about your enemy!

Of course I know!
It is full of gallente.

I know their mentality, I know about their culture (or more like about lack of it), how they criminally operate, and I despise them because I know about them so much.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2014-11-19 09:13:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Foiritan?.. The president, under whom Noir rammed our station, under whom gallentes were racially attacked Caldari citizens on Caldari Prime, under whom gallente police was beating Caldari protesters, under whom hidden Caldari POWs prisons were found in Black Rise, where they were tortured, and this is the presiden, who started the war to take our Black Rise. Must be detained, sentenced and executed.

Roden?.. The president, under whom the most atrocious war crime against humanity was committed, the so called "operation Highlander", that killed millions and scarred our planet for thousands of years. Must be detained, sentenced and executed.

Blaque?.. I have no idea who is this guy, but he sounds gallentean and probably gallentean politician of high rank. I have no idea what he did, so he must be detained and investigated thoroughly. And maybe executed as well.


Blaque. Head of the Black Eagles, who are clandestine operatives with a mausoleum of skeletons. If any Gallente citizen with sympathies for the Caldari disappears overnight, high chances are it's Black Eagles doing. This guy is the sort of fellow who would give the go-ahead to orbital-bombard Caldari Prime were he around in the position of command during the first Gallente-Caldari War. Stinks of U-Nat through and through.

So, a typical gallentean.
Thanks, but I could have guessed it by his origin.

Elmund Egivand wrote:

Seriously, why am I even telling you this? You do not even know this man? You kept saying you want to destroy the Federation but you do not even bother to at least know who is who in the Federation, how they operate, the details of their culture, their mentality, their stratagem and the who she-bang. You can't hope to destroy your hated foe if you didn't take any steps to know everything there is to know about your enemy!

Of course I know!
It is full of gallente.

I know their mentality, I know about their culture (or more like about lack of it), how they criminally operate, and I despise them because I know about them so much.


The very fact that you seem to think the Federation Navy would disappear overnight or weaken in any way just because of election speaks otherwise.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#88 - 2014-11-19 09:33:00 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

The very fact that you seem to think the Federation Navy would disappear overnight or weaken in any way just because of election speaks otherwise.

Silly minmatar, they won't disappear, of course. This is a real life, not some shaman's tale about disappearing peoples in a poof of smoke.
The organisation will be simply decapitated. The routine job of exterminating Federal Navy remains will lay on our shoulders.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#89 - 2014-11-19 10:06:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

The very fact that you seem to think the Federation Navy would disappear overnight or weaken in any way just because of election speaks otherwise.

Silly minmatar, they won't disappear, of course. This is a real life, not some shaman's tale about disappearing peoples in a poof of smoke.
The organisation will be simply decapitated. The routine job of exterminating Federal Navy remains will lay on our shoulders.


The election is not going to cripple the Federation Navy in any way. If you knew anything about how the Federation works you would had known this by now. The Fed Navy will continue as it were based on the last directive they received. You will need to wait until AFTER the election before any changes in their directives, mission and deployment pattern is observed.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#90 - 2014-11-19 11:03:09 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
I think we retain the status quo. Roden's going to vote for himself at least.


It's not as if voting actually matters, you end up with the same people in office anyway.


Well apart from entirely missing the point of centuries of democratic thought, you're absolutely right.

Urg.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#91 - 2014-11-19 11:45:41 UTC
Laurentis Thiesant wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
I think we retain the status quo. Roden's going to vote for himself at least.


It's not as if voting actually matters, you end up with the same people in office anyway.


Well apart from entirely missing the point of centuries of democratic thought, you're absolutely right.

Urg.

Democracy is disgusting and inefficient.
Could you gallenteans just hold it closed tight behind your doors? Because if you like it, it's your right, you might even like to swim in toilet masses. But while it expands beyond Federal border or even to contested Caldari-Gallente warzone, or even into Caldari Prime, it must be burned down with fire like a plague.

Even as primitive peoples as tribals can now understand this!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#92 - 2014-11-19 12:03:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Antolliere
Diana Kim wrote:

Democracy is disgusting and inefficient.
Could you gallenteans just hold it closed tight behind your doors? Because if you like it, it's your right, you might even like to swim in toilet masses. But while it expands beyond Federal border or even to contested Caldari-Gallente warzone, or even into Caldari Prime, it must be burned down with fire like a plague.

Even as primitive peoples as tribals can now understand this!


Mademoiselle Kim,

I wholeheartedly agree that democracy is inefficient. It is specifically designed to be inefficient. The entire concept of branches of government established to check one another's power and deliberations being drawn out to allow the general populace to have a say is contrary to efficiency.

However, we have seen what happens when efficiency is put before prudence and equanimity. I implore you to take an objective look at the collective histories of our two peoples. You will notice that many of the incidents you harbor the greatest resentment toward my people for are the times when the due process of government was side-stepped in favor of efficiency. An efficient response to a threat, an efficient restructuring of the market in war time...

I, for one, am pleased that democracy is inefficient. The more often we pause, step back and evaluate the situation before us to give ourselves a chance to act with clarity and temperance, the less likely we are to repeat the sins we commit in the heat of the moment.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#93 - 2014-11-19 17:30:49 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Democracy is disgusting and inefficient.
Could you gallenteans just hold it closed tight behind your doors? Because if you like it, it's your right, you might even like to swim in toilet masses. But while it expands beyond Federal border or even to contested Caldari-Gallente warzone, or even into Caldari Prime, it must be burned down with fire like a plague.

Even as primitive peoples as tribals can now understand this!


Mademoiselle Kim,

I wholeheartedly agree that democracy is inefficient. It is specifically designed to be inefficient. The entire concept of branches of government established to check one another's power and deliberations being drawn out to allow the general populace to have a say is contrary to efficiency.

However, we have seen what happens when efficiency is put before prudence and equanimity. I implore you to take an objective look at the collective histories of our two peoples. You will notice that many of the incidents you harbor the greatest resentment toward my people for are the times when the due process of government was side-stepped in favor of efficiency. An efficient response to a threat, an efficient restructuring of the market in war time...

I, for one, am pleased that democracy is inefficient. The more often we pause, step back and evaluate the situation before us to give ourselves a chance to act with clarity and temperance, the less likely we are to repeat the sins we commit in the heat of the moment.

Well, Mr. Anolliere, I have to say, that I am quite pleased that gallentean democracy is inefficient as well, but only while it stays gallentean and doesn't spread outside.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#94 - 2014-11-19 17:52:45 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:


Even as primitive peoples as tribals can now understand this!

**** like this is the reason nobody likes you Kim. Leave the tribes out of this.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
#95 - 2014-11-19 18:08:30 UTC
I wouldn't bother Tyrel.
To her, you're a foreigner and nothing more.

it must be so dull to see the world as nothing but black and heth.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2014-11-19 20:13:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
The easiest solution to a problem child like Kim is simply not to talk to them. I suggest anyone who doesn't desire to hear her speak - and from what I've seen, that's pretty much the entire IGS save herself - cease communication with her.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#97 - 2014-11-19 20:36:51 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:


Even as primitive peoples as tribals can now understand this!

**** like this is the reason nobody likes you Kim. Leave the tribes out of this.

Correction:
Only Nobody FROM tribals or gallenteans. Including gallentean bootlickers (traitors, outcasts, incompetent fools exiled by Tibus Heth during meritocracy reform, and stuff like that).

Oh, and add to that also general pirate scum, whom I like to shoot now more as a hobby than profession (my profession is shooting those, whom I just have listed).

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#98 - 2014-11-19 21:31:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrel Toov
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
The easiest solution to a problem child like Kim is simply not to talk to them. I suggest anyone who doesn't desire to hear her speak - and from what I've seen, that's pretty much the entire IGS save herself - cease communication with her.

Yeah, but it doesn't help when people quote her posts. It's the reason I stopped using the block function you cant truly block anyone because there's always someone who has to ******* quote her.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2014-11-19 21:58:59 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Yeah, but it doesn't help when people quote her posts. It's the reason I stopped using the block function you cant truly block anyone because there's always someone who has to ******* quote her.

And that's my point. If everyone stops talking to or about her, the problem will go away on its own.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#100 - 2014-11-19 22:12:01 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Tyrel Toov wrote:
Yeah, but it doesn't help when people quote her posts. It's the reason I stopped using the block function you cant truly block anyone because there's always someone who has to ******* quote her.

And that's my point. If everyone stops talking to or about her, the problem will go away on its own.

Nice idea on paper, but its right up there with "if everyone would just stop shooting each other we would have peace in the cluster".

Someone is always going to **** in the Quafe just for a giggle or because they think it will help.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.