Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Or you could, i dont know, Log in and change skills...

I mean if you want Marauders you can skill 5 levels of battleships, AWU and all that jazz and then slam in some t2 weapon skills (or something) and then, as an example... Oh i dunno, log in, and go "no i believe i'll take 4 levels of marauders before i continue skilling t2 autocannons (in the case of a vargur)

is it that hard to log into a char you have paid to run? Either its a regular second account. Or its mutlitrain. EIther way it has been paid for in some way to train. May as well log in and run it once in a while and mix up skills if needed.


PLus the usual basic control flow logic probably in place:

if prereq's met
inject_Skilll
else
print "need prereq's"



Also in this case the skill list is not unlimited but still works out better if going this route. In the old days you'd have to be there to be put that prereg 4 or 5 once list got below 24 hours. Now you don't. skill level 3 runs out in 32 hours. You are away a few days and may not see this. Well now you can put in level 4 and some other fillers. You at least get the level 4 in. Marked improvement here.

Hit this scenario week and a half ago. tactical logistics 4 was running out days into my week long vacation my internet connection was iffy. So I tacked on tactical logistics 5 as well with the list far from the 24 hours limit of old. Nice setup really. In the "old days"...I would have had to suspend my level 4 train, chuck in a skill to cover my week off and come back and hit that level 4 train when I came back. New system....the planned train just rolled on. Look for silver linings the tl;dr, system is a lot better these days.

Injection of skills you do not have to prereqs for is a very common request. It is not the same task as opening up the skill queue. Hopefully things will reach the point that we can also have this change made. I do not think the lack of it invalidates the current improvements to the skill queue.

pretty sure this is a problem with the code

Geez I can't believe anybody from CCP is even considering allowing skills to be injected without having the skill prerequisites meet first. I mean seriously just how easy do you intend to make this game. Keep it up and before long this game is gonna get very BOOOOORING. The new skill training queue is fine as is. You don't have to cater to everyone's needs because of laziness. I mean before the change I had to log on to update my skill queue every single day and now it's like once a month which I consider a HUUGE improvement. SO what more do you need. Quit been lazy and be happy with the current changes the older veterans as you describe had it way harder in the past.

Logging in has literally nothing to do with how 'difficult' this game is. The skillqueue was extended because making people login to update skills does nothing for the game. Making people login because they've finished a certain skill is similarly pointless.

You are not super genius players of an infinitely complex game just because you login every day, sorry.

What the mental midgets are failing to understand, is no one is proposing an injected successor skill actually be trainable until it meets its pre-req. If the queue runs into a skill that doesn't have its pre-req, it just stops...or skips over that skill.

What is stupid is having an unlimited skill queue that is not unlimited..based on the need to wait until a pre-req is trained before you can simply inject the successor skill and load it into the queue.

Here's an example. Someone in the armed forces (protecting your goddamned way of life by putting his bawls on the line) cannot log into EvE for a full two month period while on deployment in the suck. They have paid for their account, been told a shiny new 'unlimited skill queue' has now been rolled out, yet they STILL can't load said queue with all the skills needed to train a Damnation command ship...

...all because they can't inject and load the goddamned successor skills into said queue, because logging in every four or five days just to inject a skill and re-work the queue simply isn't possible.

tldr;
Don't be a d1ck. Support our troops. Support non-dependancy skill injection and queue loading.

F

You lost any hope of my support when you decided to make your platform "Either you're with me or against our troops."

Additionally, pasting "support our troops" onto something does not automatically make it good.

Moreover, someone disagreeing with you does not mean they don't understand your point; it simply means they disagree with you. I don't know if they teach you anything in Basic Training other than how to make your bed, use a weapon and follow orders, but it is possible for people who aren't you to have an IQ of over 6 and still not agree with or like what you're saying.

Now get the hell out.

Tell me cupcake, what compelling gameplay is involved in keeping the skill queue loading tied to dependancies? Im not talking about removing skill planning (which some sick fux consider fun), or bypassing predecessors for actual skill training, but the physical act of being forced to log in as soon as a predecessor skill finishes, to just immediately inject and load its successor into a queue that has been recently re-invented and marketed by CCP as 'unlimited'?

So tell me, compelling gameplay how?

F

injecting skills w/o the prereq means you can go jita or wherever you like buy all the skills in the market and forget about skill book logistic for the rest of your EVE life, that's why some ppl claims that injecting skillbooks you dont have the prereq would dumb the game down