EVE General Discussion

They said in the jump changes (somewhere in the mess) that it is coming soon, and separately said that it requires a lot more under the hood work than normal ships.

So nothing other than,"yes we will" in reality.


Also: I want video of them taking that damn Indy core out back and going 'office space' on it. A soundtrack and all.

as I mentioned they continue to avoid the topic and not discuss it.. how come mr.greyscale or fozzie or rise or the numerous other popular dev's haven't just opened up a full on discussion no avoiding waiting for the thread to just sink away..

they can add new cloaking animations, ship re-images, even nerf entire ships jump ranges.. yet can not sit still one bit to discuss when this change is coming.. it continues to get pushed back, pushed back and pushed back..

I'm guessing it's going to be dependent on them working out how to restrict boosts to on-grid influence only. Until they've got that sorted there's no benefit to talking about the Rorq, and potential harm because they've always been careful to say they are trying to fix OGB. It may turn out to be linked into the abomination that is the POS code for all we know, so that would radically change the potential options for rebalancing the Rorq.

But.. but.. half the time my point of view is taken as a troll..

I am confuse and sad.

The problem is that when you deploy the Rorqual it converts into POS code and therefore cannot be fixed.

Cat's out of the bag. After mentioning or replying multiple times over the past year that it's in a bad place, that they're looking to fix it, that it's being discussed with the balance team:

Rorqual rebalance has been pushed back indefinitely.

To be fair the rorq is probably the hardest ship to balance.

As many people have said, many of its primary functions can be done by other things.

What do you do with it.. make it into a Capital Mining Ship perhaps?

I wish you weren't probably right, though I figure you could train a perfect rorq toon (5/5/5/5 jump skills, cap industrial 5, t2 sentries, heavies, meds, lights, mining, ewar drones, t2/capital shield skills, comps to 4 or 5 even, all leadership skills maxed) in under 2 years. Have to add another 7-8 months if you wanted perfect refines mind you



The problems are that it is far too vulnerable in belts with a 5 minute siege timer, the capital tractor beam is useless (you dont jetcan mine when you are running a large group of hulks, unless you enjoy making your life difficult, you use freight cans, and they cant be tractored), the remote shield transfer bonus isnt of much practical use given hulk buffer size.

So what do you do? 1) you make mining links not work inside of a pos shield. 2) you increase the bonus on rorqual links to 12% instead of 10% per level in siege, to warrant the increased risk. 3) You drop the cycle time on the industrial core to 1 minute base, or 2 minutes base, reduced by 15 seconds per level of the industrial reconfiguration skill 4) You give the ship the ability to loot containers within 20/50/150km or w.e, so that your miners dont all have to be jammed up around it 5) you give the ship increased survivability, while in industrial siege, akin to bastion on the marauder. Block incoming reps, but give it increased resists and boost. 6) Maybe give it some way to attract rat aggression to the rorq instead of to the mining ships around it

I'd also be in favour of having a small efficiency reduction on pos compression arrays, say 5-10% waste, given that doing the opposite, giving the rorq higher efficiency compression could cause weird scenarios.

This may be a totally face pamingly stupid, but with the latest patch (where I understand that capitals can use jump gates) could I now buy a rorqual (that I looooove the look of) then jump it back to my 0.6 sec mining area and use it there? Other posts that I have read say that mining using capitals does not break the 'thou shall not have capitals in high sec' rule.
Can somebody tell me the truth? I'm not concerned at all by whether it's worth it, or whether it's a stupid idea because I'm wasting all that money and training time...I just need that ship in my life

Highsec gates do not allow capitals to pass through them. If they did, believe me, you'd have already seen rorquals wizzing around in highsec, sieging on stations to compress ore, running links, etc.