Player Features and Ideas Discussion

My first time posting this was in the general discussion so I am moving it here to its proper home. For those of you reading this have you ever thought about how in real life you learn some things faster than others? Maybe you learn math really fast but your arn't so good at writing? Or maybe you can fix a car but you are bad at driving? Well what would you think about adding a system that exemplifies that to EVE? To where you could do a mini-game to see how adept you are at a type of skill and then modify your characters learning speed to match your results.

What I am talking about is all those days spent on long skills. The test would be optional but it could shave off quite a bit of time. How much would be up to CCP but I would think at least a quarter would be sufficient. it would differ for people and you could take it again. Not right away but my train of thought leads me to believe that one month between tries would be best. that way you could study but the tests would have to change otherwise it would be to easy. The last score results will also modify the test as well.

I can't speak for everyone but I am the guy who is good at math but can barely write. I can fix a car but I can't drive. But I would be willing to test myself to shorten the learning times in this game for my character. I know there are areas I wouldn't try. But it isn't all about me. What do you, the people who have read this, think of the idea?

While in the general discussions the topic of cheating on tests came up. My only answer is that for those who want to cheat it is never impossible. In the past people have hacked and cheated on almost every PC game. And when it comes to tests it isn't hard to research the topic. So to turn it into a variable/changing mini game that tests aptitude not knowledge and is based on futuristic topics that one can't research, just in case, would be the best way to deter cheating. Also with the use of new neural headsets it would further limit cheating possibilties. But as I said before there is no sure way to stop those who are absolutly determined and have the skills to cheat from cheating.


Sincerely,
Jacob N.
Fellow capsuleer

yea that's exactly what they're for but he's after smart people having an advantage over idiots in a game.

moving from the other thread


yeah but any amount of active would give basement dwellers and teenagers an advantage over those of us that work and/or have have kids,
because we then have to eat into our game time (which is already short enough) to keep up.

the current method is great , i love it and id have serious reservations about changing it.

One of my corp members in a nut shell. Agreed, -1.

The system as it currently exists is reasonably fair and as far as I know can't be gamed and I see no good or compelling reason to change it let alone add elements to it that could be gamed.

Not supported.

No.
"MMO" stands for "Massively Multiplayer Online."

The reason you think that "MMO" is synonymous with XP-grinding is because almost every MMO since their inception has used the XP-grinding system... which dates back to Dungeons and Dragons in the 1970s.

And the reason that it keeps getting used is because the XP-grinding mechanic essentially forces players to be active as much as possible lest they be "left behind"... despite its soul crushing nature.
Oh... and it gets better; games have built entire worlds to encourage this behavior. Grind, build a new world to grind more, rinse and repeat.

It is a self-reinforcing loop where grinding IS the content!

Not so in EVE. The passive skill system allows one to focus on what they WANT to do other than grinding with the time they have available.

This is part of the reason I have stayed with EVE for as long as I have. I don't have to grind for anything! Not even ISK (because I know how to get it easily)!


So go out and get involved in the world of EVE. You don't need skills to talk to people and become a part of their group.

And if they make it a requirement... you didn't want to be a part of their group anyways.


Stop right there!

You do not NEED to have every skill mastered before you go out and do something. Just do it! Even with all the skills in the game at max, if you do not know how to use them they are practically useless.

Read this thread. It perfectly illustrates what I am trying to say here.
tldr; newbie gets mature character with high skills from a veteran friend... newbie fits it out and gets stomped on by people who probably have half the skills he/she has, but know and understand the mechanics/tactics/ship fits better.


Just because some games have them, it doesn't mean they will fit into every aspect of another game. The skill system is fine as is.

Shahfluffers wrote everything I was going to write and more - and did it better. So there you go.

-1, OP. Try to understand more about EVE before you propose changes to it.