Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The subject at hand is the PLEX market, and you brought up cartels as support for an argument without first establishing that a cartel existed. I don't see what else could be more clear here. While I agree that speculation and cartels are certainly bad for real economies, EVE is not a real economy. Also, we need to clarify the difference between speculation, long term investment (long considered a wise thing to do with PLEX), and inflation (yay incursions!). All three factors are at work here and separating them is rather difficult.


I never said that the stack system would kill the PLEX market or cap prices. That was a different post in response to another poster proposing a price cap. Please learn to read. Although it may kill the PLEX market in certain parts of low and null. Also, once again, EVE is not a real economy.

Also you are assuming that PLEX flipping is occurring often enough to be an issue. You need to prove that before proposing changes to correct the issue.

Because you wouldn't be able to buy PLEX in Jita and ship it to low/null for resale. Some trade is done with normal ISK you know. Since the current supply of PLEX would eventually deplete we can't rely on it to sustain normal PLEX trade.


How is this a problem? As I stated earlier there are already pressure relief valves in place for PLEX prices.

Also, there is only a certain amount of gold on earth, very little is mined these days compared to how much is available on the market already so the market for it is somewhat uniquely influenced by demand over supply. Governments also horde the stuff and the Chinese (the largest producers of the stuff) like to fiddle with their import and export rules in funny ways at random times.

However PLEX is created and destroyed in large quantities every day. This is very different from gold. PLEX is closer to something like cars or paper plates, new ones are constantly being made and old ones are constantly being destroyed all over the place. Nobody stores massive numbers of new cars in warehouses for decades or gets all that worked up over import and export policies for them either. Granted people do store PLEX sometimes for long term investment, but not the way that governments store gold.

Also, unlike PLEX (so far), the price of gold does not always go up. It goes up and down like anything else based on demand.

Yes it is. As prices rise demand drops (people pay with money instead of PLEX) and supply increases (more people buy PLEX and put it on the market). Simple. Replacing PLEX sales with normal subscription payments doesn't hurt CCP at all. Prices just haven't gotten high enough yet is all. Once a PLEX can buy you a carrier or a dread I suspect things will level out a bit. Granted some people will close out their alt accounts, but I don't think this will be a significant loss for CCP. In fact EVE could use a few less alts running around.


I don't really see how this a problem. Although it could result in a sudden drop in PLEX prices if a large amount of built up PLEX hits the market at once. Then it will be the sellers complaining instead of the F2P crowd. Not really much different if you think about it.


By reasons you mean a large number of people mistaking PLEX as a F2P system? So what? Its a game. Who cares. Pay $15 a month instead of grinding like a slave for a PLEX if you feel its such an issue.

I do like your idea. I'm just not sure there is an issue that needs to addressed in the first place.