Wormholes

Imagine scanning your way into a hole with nothing more than a few combat frigs, a bunch of ventures, and no infrastructure.
You live out of small depolyables to start; Mining with your ventures, setting up minimal PI that has to be launched to space.
Eventually, you construct your first small tower. Your bubble goes up for the first time with a bit of fuel you slipped in with your cargo-fit exploration ships.
Now you can really get going.

You create mining barges to harvest ice for fuel and speed mineral production.
You build bigger ships to hold your home, and fleets of frigates and destroyers for raiding through the nearly inexhaustible frigate connections.
You build your home from the ground up.
You claim the space as your own.

The recent studies have shown that the more aspects of EVE a group or player is involved in, the more likely they are to stay in the game and play for the long term. Placing moon and allowing towers to be anchored in the small holes would create a truly unique and emergent game play in EVE, requiring players of all different types to work together to forge a home from scratch.

With no haulers able to get in, it makes more sense to create what is needed within the hole.
Because of the regenerative nature of frig holes, you are always connected, there is no real way to roll yourself shut from the rest of the universe.
Because of the light cost of ships, a corp that made this work could grow very large, allowing them to raid out with frigate and destroyer fleets.
A group could go through and build up infrastructure to sell to other groups who want the lifestyle without putting in the effort to grind the system up from scratch.

What we'd need from CCP:
It would require some changes to where certain things can be built. To my knowledge, towers can only be constructed in stations right now, and at least small towers would need to be constructable by whatever small construction unit was added to make this game-play a reality.
In short:
-Frig-hole systems with workable PI and moons for PoSs
-Two new Deoplyables:
--Mobile Reprossesing Plant
Able to reprocess raw ore into minerals (cannot handle compressed ore)
--Mobile Construction Plant
Able to construct small towers and PoS modules

With how limited these systems are in number, I feel it would make for an excellent proving ground for those entities who truly wanted to build their own group up from scratch. To do so would require a tremendous amount of time and effort, not to mention the risk in the early stages when there are no bubbles to hide behind as you attempt to construct your first tower.

In summery:
I feel the new frig holes present a golden opportunity. For the cost of a couple of new deployables and some moons in holes where nobody could even haul in a small tower (the closest I was able to get was a Phobos with a cargo of 1949m3), a completely unique venue could be added to the EVE universe.

Note:
This idea is not meant to relate to the discussion on wormhole effects in these holes or other potential changes to the frigate wormholes(Please Go Here For That).

Please keep comments/suggestions in line with the concept of creating a place where virtually everything must be built from scratch.

Regards,
~Kyra

Living the thukker lifestyle?

I personally love this idea. There is a segment of the player base that would enjoy it. This way, while your sitting in your null sec station or C5/C6 POS waiting for things to happen, or rubbing your wrist because it hurts from hours of scanning and finding nothing, you can have a few indie carebear alts happily mining and building stuff in your wormhole fortress.

The idea has been discussed at quite some length in the original suggestion for frigate holes, the overall concensus was that although an interesting concept, they were more balanced and better served, by not Having POS as even a small POS (could be carried in by a T2 rigged devoter) just turned it into a version of current wh space with a small entrance.
But there is no question, some did like the idea.

The idea of a PERSONAL mobile depot with a force field was also raised, and some thought of little villages made of these, that could be interesting, think early colonisation days, fiercly independent.

but then, if you want industry, and crowds, you need to relocate......

But I am not against your suggestion, but deep and freshly empty null might be a more appropriate place for your venture or better still, find a c1 with a null static? Most of your wishes could be achieved here?

The devoter and phobos can both be rigged to carry over 2000m3 and they can pass the wormhole when double bubbled

But as the planets have no PI in the shattered space, you may be dissapointed

anchoring pos in frig hole system will not be problem for devoter / phobos but problem might be bringing in structures sush ship maintenance array , corporae hangar array you will still be able to transport small pos batteries so you can fortify your pos little. but you wont be able to build ships inside frig hole unless ccp release mobile ship assembly arrays that could be deployed in space

Don't the frig hole systems not have moons..? Or are those only the bigger ones?

Please dont encourage this frig space garbage even more....
Have some self respect and fly some real ships.

Yeah, no. POSs in frigate only wormholes would be a bit OP. First person inside can never be evicted by the hordes of blappable Enyos which would wash up ineffectually on the POS defences (namely, a DG Large with 40 small blasters and 10 DG web batteries).

Yeah, I think that these new systems should not allow POS just to protect these rhetorical settlers from themselves. As if living in wormholes wasn't logistically complicated enough, the thought of having to haul everything 2k m3 at a time sounds torturous.

However, if you did let them live in a frig wh, there would be one with multiple capitals in it within a few months. I guarantee it. Have fun trying to break archons in a C6 WR with frigs and hictors. Better bring friends.

If nobody lives in them, they'd better have some insanely cool **** if we think they will have people in the regularly. Otherwise they'll just be another empty system.