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Rolfos
Broski North
#1 - 2014-11-15 00:49:40 UTC
See this **** right here

http://puu.sh/cR5hz/bf1d838101.jpg

around my hp/capacitor

see that ****

let me turn it off

i dont need a compass in space when i can just hit f10 and see everything instantly with 1000x more useful information

its ******* pointless and serves no purpose to me whatsoever other than to **** me off when i mouse over it to give me a window of a key to **** i dont give a ****/already know about

please and thank you

also let me turn off that notification feed button as well it's almost as useless
Rolfos
Broski North
#2 - 2014-11-15 00:53:21 UTC
btw how is a euphemism for urine starting in p in any way offensive and grounds for censorship?

i can understand the french because people cant get with the times but that?

this is some 1984 tier **** i swear to god

i feel this is relevant because it is a feature and idea related to the eve forum itself
Ron Mexxico
ElitistOps
Snuffed Out
#3 - 2014-11-15 00:55:49 UTC
i agree with everything this man says
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-11-15 01:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Eldwinn
O look this thread again. I believe CCP already commented on this from the other hundred threads that were made. I believe the answer was from CCP Explorer basically saying, no. Suck it up.

Edit: The thread post, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=384058

So,

Quote:
This is indeed the crux of the matter. We want to offer the ability to customize features and sometimes when appropriate hide them but that is not always the best approach. Always including the option to wholesale turn off features makes it difficult for us to maintain a consistent experience.


Which I am inclined to agree with. If we have all of these opt options it just creates problems down the road. Later in the thread as it expands, CCP explorer uses an anecdote to the Windows 8 start button. To be honest he is right. Suck it up or move along.
MMcha
Broski North
#5 - 2014-11-15 01:04:54 UTC
Eldwinn wrote:
O look this thread again. I believe CCP already commented on this from the other hundred threads that were made. I believe the answer was from CCP Explorer basically saying, no. Suck it up.


thats exactly the attitude that is going to kill eve online in <2 years... they've been forcing cosmetic changes on us for years, pointless updates that only make the game less accessible, more boring or less aesthetically pleasing.

maybe the dwindling subscriber base should be an indicator that you're doing something wrong, or maybe the fact your senior staff are leaving for other companies

just saying
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-11-15 01:10:53 UTC
MMcha wrote:
Eldwinn wrote:
O look this thread again. I believe CCP already commented on this from the other hundred threads that were made. I believe the answer was from CCP Explorer basically saying, no. Suck it up.


thats exactly the attitude that is going to kill eve online in <2 years... they've been forcing cosmetic changes on us for years, pointless updates that only make the game less accessible, more boring or less aesthetically pleasing.

maybe the dwindling subscriber base should be an indicator that you're doing something wrong, or maybe the fact your senior staff are leaving for other companies

just saying


The EVE UI is crap. Adding in features and refining upon the existing UI is a long over do patch. I am sure we will have this same talk in Rhea when the UI completely changes; regarding something in that UI change.
Rolfos
Broski North
#7 - 2014-11-15 01:12:37 UTC
Eldwinn wrote:
Quote:
Always including the option to wholesale turn off features makes it difficult for us to maintain a consistent experience.


How in any way does turning off pointless UI changes such as this Space Compass which is entirely and unequivocally useless make for an inconsistent experience?

ur just grasping at stars here m8
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-11-15 01:15:09 UTC
Rolfos wrote:
Eldwinn wrote:
Quote:
Always including the option to wholesale turn off features makes it difficult for us to maintain a consistent experience.


How in any way does turning off pointless UI changes such as this Space Compass which is entirely and unequivocally useless make for an inconsistent experience?

ur just grasping at stars here m8


It is night and day. One UI has the Compass and one would not. Which is inconsistent. I believe you just had defined inconsistent with your own question sir.
Rolfos
Broski North
#9 - 2014-11-15 01:16:37 UTC
It's almost as if you don't understand the meaning of the word useless

Or the fact you can change many other parts of the ui such as the overview and brackets which actually have an effect on the game, but this doesn't make for an inconsistent experience for some reason?
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-15 01:20:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Eldwinn
Rolfos wrote:
It's almost as if you don't understand the meaning of the word useless

Or the fact you can change many other parts of the ui such as the overview and brackets which actually have an effect on the game, but this doesn't make for an inconsistent experience for some reason?


I am think done talking with you from this stage. Since reading another thread that I linked for you is a bit to hard. Good luck on your thread good sir. I will continue to mine all "the compass" threads that generate tears.
MMcha
Broski North
#11 - 2014-11-15 01:28:22 UTC
if anyone can honestly say that the compass is anything but an eye sore, id like to hear it... its not even smooth when you pan the camera around, its laggy and just straight up annoying
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#12 - 2014-11-15 01:35:44 UTC
Your post is useless but it's still here too. Waaa
Rolfos
Broski North
#13 - 2014-11-15 01:48:10 UTC
scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:
Your post is useless but it's still here too. Waaa


at least it has a functional positive goal in mind unlike yours
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#14 - 2014-11-15 03:17:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Daichi Yamato
MMcha wrote:
they've been forcing cosmetic changes on us for years, pointless updates that only make the game less accessible, more boring or less aesthetically pleasing.



are you reading CCP? bring back the old UI and double your subscription base!!

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2014-11-15 03:49:35 UTC
I would just like the option to tern on or off all the bits of the UI individually

I also don't use the compass and would like to get it out the way....
I would also like bigger overload tabs.... and the 2005 Nighthawk black skin..
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#16 - 2014-11-15 03:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
MMcha wrote:
if anyone can honestly say that the compass is anything but an eye sore, id like to hear it... its not even smooth when you pan the camera around, its laggy and just straight up annoying


Alvatore DiMarco, checking in to say that I genuinely like the space compass and think it's a pleasing and reasonably-useful addition to the interface.

Perhaps if you stop trying to play EVE on a potato, you'll find that your experience is different. I play on a GTX 650Ti with a 3GHz Phenom II (not terribly recent hardware), all of EVE's settings at max with DX11 enabled and my compass is so buttery-smooth you would think it frictionless.

If OP is offended by the space compass, he can turn off all the different marks to render it empty and then disable the scanner display. It makes the compass almost as if it weren't there. CCP has already said they're not going to add in a toggle or checkbox for every single UI thing they do and if you can't HTFU and deal with that, then you know where to find WoW.

CCP has always been very strict about the UI appearance and the user experience it conveys as part of their brand identity - that's why they don't allow user customization.
wopolusa
Anti-Nub Incorporated
Centipede Caliphate.
#17 - 2014-11-15 04:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: wopolusa
The compass is incredibly useful to anyone doing more than F1 spam (sadly a lot of people these days...), particularly in WH space it's fantastic for locating where wormholes you have bookmarked are in relation to your ship and especially being able to Dscan each one. + it's useful in ALL space for finding ships and probes near sigs & anomaly's.

Just because you don't know how to use it doesn't mean it's useless.

EDIT: bit of a rant. sorry. I suppose having it as opt in doesn't hurt, but it's also such a tiny piece of UI...
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#18 - 2014-11-15 04:31:20 UTC
wopolusa wrote:
I suppose having it as opt in doesn't hurt, but it's also such a tiny piece of UI...


You're new here, or at least I've never seen you before. Therefore, let me tell you where you are: You are in F&I, worst subforum in all of EVE-O, and the place where people cry about Every. Stupid. Little. Thing.
wopolusa
Anti-Nub Incorporated
Centipede Caliphate.
#19 - 2014-11-15 07:58:32 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
You're new here, or at least I've never seen you before. Therefore, let me tell you where you are: You are in F&I, worst subforum in all of EVE-O, and the place where people cry about Every. Stupid. Little. Thing.


Yeah only lately do I really have the experience in eve to be using this forum properly. Point taken though. definitely still -1
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2014-11-15 08:31:44 UTC
Rolfos wrote:
Eldwinn wrote:
Quote:
Always including the option to wholesale turn off features makes it difficult for us to maintain a consistent experience.


How in any way does turning off pointless UI changes such as this Space Compass which is entirely and unequivocally useless make for an inconsistent experience?

ur just grasping at stars here m8


The compass is useful to everyone else besides you.
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