Player Features and Ideas Discussion

First: Double-Click (in the Overview*) to Align is Bad, Bad, Bad (and pointless!)
*Mentioned the overview in the title so people don't get their hackles up so quickly - manual piloting isn't going anywhere

Let's establish a couple of existing default shortcuts to begin with:

• Warp : S
• Dock/Jump/Activate Gate : D
• Align : A

So, I have no particular problem with these shortcuts. However, when I die and find myself in a pod (and am spamming buttons to get away), I tend to alternate between clicking and pressing the D key (because keyboard shortcuts are always superior to right-click and warp, ask any Starcraft player). I click in order to make sure I am selecting the right celestial/item on the overview (because when your capsule is ejected, your selected item clears - click repeatedly because ugh lag lag lag). I press D to try to warp. However, the game believes I'm double-clicking and not hitting the D key, keeping me aligned unless I realize what's happening in the heat of the moment and either wait a second or two (enough time to get my pod blapped) and retry D, or single-click VERY CAREFULLY and hit D on another warpable item on my overview. I have adapted lately, but this is still a very frustrating issue, especially when facing lots of FPS lag.

Also, I think the decisiveness of a double-click should indicate a warp, not an align. At the very least, we should be able to customize that. The double-click align problem has only presented itself in the last couple of months - was it stealth-patched in?

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Second: Drone Release is no doubt in your code already! Map it to a keyboard shortcut!

Let me respond to the first part of any potential CCP response now: Yes, I know you want to do this very robustly from the get-go. Follow-up: Yes, players have been waiting for far too long to have a simple, one-stroke keyboard shortcut.

Note the above principle: A keyboard shortcut, especially a customizable one, is better than having to go through a right-click menu. As of right now, you have a two-click solution for launching drones from your bay which could be supplanted by a single shortcut key. Right-click "Drones In Bay" and left-click "Launch Drones (x)", where x is the number of drones you have in your bay.

Naturally, if x > 5, only five drones will launch. And which drones will launch??? Aaa, we don't know! The solution I keep hearing about that'll come Soon(tm) is having different drone shortcut keys for different groups (as the drone grouping mechanic already exists). I know your old, core core is wonky - I know you want to revamp it and get it back into shape. But, for right now, I am reasonably certain that given there is a "Launch Drones" general command as described above, that you can for the time being make it mappable to a keyboard shortcut and make a lot of people happy.

Of course, if I'm wrong on the relative ease of mappability (caution: not a word), then let me know.

Double clicking does not align you to warp, it may be a consequence of the direction you chose, but that's not what it's for. Double clicking is your only method of manual flight in EVE. If you remove it then you destroy numerous tactics and strategies and tie FCs arms behind their backs.

So hell NO, you cannot remove double clicking because you're a careless and incompetent pilot.


Edit: Also, StarCraft players mindlessly spam drag boxes on their screen and click in thin air to get an imaginary worthless number up at the end of the match. Whoop de doo, I have no idea why you're using the as a part of your argument. On top of that, the guy you want for a fight is the one ho ins with less actions performed. He is by definition the more efficient and effective player.

Ok, in which case I'm sorry that I didn't understand what it's like to have my finger hyperspasm on the mouse button when selecting the overview.

Luckily, the issue of 15 sets of drones is not mine to solve - nor did I attempt to tackle it. The low-hanging fruit of the 'launch drones' shortcut is there.

And I am aware of the server tick (had thought it was 2s for some reason), but it sounds like you're assuming that a problem can't exist despite my having experienced it. When the commands are click-D-click-D-click-D-click-D in rapid succession, warp does not happen, only alignment. That shouldn't be how it works.

Thanks, but I very much like my double-click to align, both in the overview and space. And I rather drag a drone group into space than fiddle with my keyboard. With 7+ drone groups in my Ishtar, a constantly switching drone mix in the hold and a whole lot more in my carrier, this would be a lot more work than benefit.

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Well, D only works if you have an interactable target selected, I went to a safe and started spamming D+left lcick on top of astation in my overview as fast as I could; it worked like a charm confirmed by the video playback. I went form standstill to warp in the exact same time as it took with a single press of the "Dock" button while having the station selected. Spamming S+left click warped me away to a TCU quite easily as well.

I'm not sure where the issue is as I cannot reproduce it.

Edit: do you ahve your mouse and keyboard daisy chained to a single port?

https://zkillboard.com/character/422655941/kills/

You were saying? That's what someone who doesn't rely on blob warfare looks like by the way. I'll stand by each and every one of those kills and losses.

Anyways, as you can see, I'm not quite alone in the opinion that you should just learn to be in better command of your own bodily assets.