Crime & Punishment

The New Order of Highsec fully supports you in your efforts to not mine in highsec. Great work!

So many tears.

We destroy and report bots. We destroy bot-aspirant fleets. And while it is true we despise them, actual botting does seem to fall into the realm of CCP and their EULA, and a problem that goes beyond what can solved completely in game.

But what we can do is provide the risk in highsec that CCP envisioned when they designed this game. That risk is an equal opportunity force which washes over the the lazy/complacent, the new, the botters/AFKers, the greedy, and the stupid in New Eden and cleanses them with fire. That is our raison d'etre - to remind carebears and the other entitleds that Eve is a multiplayer sandbox where they are always in competition with other players, even in "safe" highsec.

We provide more than risk too. We offer advice and training for new players (in the form of the Code), training that even comes with a certification (a mining permit). If they follow what's in there, they will be perfectly safe not only from us, but from the real ne'er-do-wells in highsec. We also offer ourselves as tear-extracting villains on the altar of emergent content, so people like you Tyyler, can find some purpose in your game play.

What we are not is your private police force. If you have a problem with an ISboxer fleet, then I suggest you do something about it, other than the all-too-common pattern of carebears coming to the forums to whine to CCP for game changes and pleading for other players to solve their in-game problems.

Obviously, we don't need to increase our virtual penises to feel we've accomplished something. You obviously need the kills, the permits andwhatnot to gauge your success.

Keep on persuading yourselves you're important, maybe someone will actually believe that you're not obviously irrelevant.

I don't know if you guys ever have seen "The Town" with Ben Affleck. A professional bank robbing gang causing the city of Boston quite a ruckus. I compare it to Eve online and I see some similarities between CODE and the Miners. It's a shame that I have asked to have this topic locked and look how far this debate has gone. There is a time for grabbing popcorn and watching this dispute to go way too far, If I were a member of ISD (I appreciate the hard work they do on the forums.) I would have locked this thread the moment I read the first request.

Maybe I should apply for ISD, I wonder if they're hiring at this time?

There is a little flag above each post where you can report things to the ISD.

I suggest you use it if you really think there is a problem as trolling for an ISD lock is rather unbecoming and probably against a rule somewhere.

But yes, to answer your question, I do think they are hiring.

This thread wonderfully highlights everything wrong with The New Order. It should be stickied just so new players can see the exact flaws of the group before potentially making the mistake of supporting them.


There is something called the "red pen list" which is historically used for players who viciously attack James or agents of the New Order. When you see a group of miners or mission runners rampantly insult the aforementioned parties, they are added to this list with a greater focus dealt against them. Many if not most are wardecced either by CODE or related entities.

Here we have a player Renegade who has done much of the same; essential calling out CODE as cowards and idiots. He is undocked at Amarr and other trade hubs almost daily and would thus be a viable target. They know this but they choose not to wardec him. Their excuse? He might fold up corp. Does that make any sense though? CODE throws away 60-80bil ISK each month on suicide ships. Surely the risk of spending 50mil to shoot down someone worthy of the "red pen list" should be considered pocket change. Let's consider something though. If you look through CODE wardecs, you will find most times they wardec a rebel or rebel group that is willing to shoot back, they get their butts handed to them.

So what are we left with here? CODE:
- states those who persist in insulting agents and the New Order will be targeted more specifically.
- spends more than 120x the cost of a wardec each month on suicide ships.
- typically get roasted when wardeccing players that are willing to shoot back
- announces a new wardec division and a player persists in insulting agents and the New Order.
- decide to not wardec said player

Ask yourselves: Why won't they wardec him? If you are logical, reasonable and rational you know the answer. For those that don't fit that bill, I'll break it down simply for you: It's because they don't want him following them around, catching their stragglers and impededing their operations. They are scared of him. The great CODE alliance, creators of content, just as bad as any carebear. Cowards that limit their own content because they fear their opponent.
This is to be expected though. The New Order are not after fun gameplay as much as they are after tears from their victims. The lack of wardec against PVP players not only supports the cowardly nature of the New Order but also supports the reasoned claim that they are griefers looking to enrage other players as a primary motive for their own entertainment. They know the random PVPer won't write a tearmail even if they do kill him. This only serves to double their motivation in not going after him.

And no, this post isn't tears. I'm thoroughly enjoying calling out CODE on their BS. It's my content. And for all the flaws of the average CODE member many are at least somewhat intelligent. That means that the truths exposed in this post will get to their heads; the thought of the mental gymnastics they will engage in to try and convince themselves that my claims aren't true is enough entertainment for me.

The New Order of High Sec has no qualms with the PvP individuals in high sec, thus the lack of a need to target them. The New Order of High Sec is dedicated to the eradication of AFK "gameplay", which is most often seen by individuals that are mining, hauling, and missioning.

When we engage those brave few that are willing to stand up and fight against us, where does it say that it's only a New Order of High Sec win if we destroy all of the enemy ships? The New Order of High Sec is bigger than any one pilot. It's bigger than any KDR, which is evidenced by our killboard. It's bigger than individual engagements with enemy combatants.

When we, as Agents for the New Order of High Sec, get engaged by those that shoot back, we consider it a win regardless of which ships leave the battlefield. Win or lose by the value system of the small minded and egotistical sort that are obsessed with their own personal killboards, we sleep well at night knowing that the person in that other ship was not AFK. We sleep well knowing that we've helped to ensure one less bot in High Sec. We sleep well knowing that we've taken another step to ensure a better tomorrow for all!

The New Order of High Sec is dedicated to the eradication of AFK "gameplay", which is most often seen by individuals that are mining, hauling, and missioning.


Who AFK missions?