Player Features and Ideas Discussion

exactly - it works because you are suddenly changing the max speed to be much closer to current speed. Not because max speed have anything to do with how long it takes to enter warp.

Sure there's choice in what to use slots for. For example, you could choose to align-fit and carry 3 ordinary T1 battleships and a few cruisers. Even with way less tank than an all-bulkhead fit, that cargo isn't worth a gank attempt.

Just because the people who want this ship the most want to carry around 3 pimp-fit pirate battleships, does not mean that the thing should be built to give them their every desire on a platter. It's not like you can't run incursions in a plain T1 BS if you wanted to.

Awesome!

As an incursion runner, this will be amazing

It's a pain to be that guy who wants a DPS ship, a snipe ship, a t3, and a logi and get all your ships there without abusing your alts.

This will be incredibly useful, if not indispensable.

I, for one, am getting one as soon as it's available.

-Jacob Katruun

SO not true CCP Rise - it was only after tons of screaming and 404 pages that CCP Greyscale backed off a bit and gave in about JF's and logistics.

Anyway that aside - very excited to see this ship enter game and the opportunities and content it will generate!


.... so where's that image of the ship you were looking for?

Which freighter?

You know, they do have different racial skills.

(Their prerequisites are the same, other than the Ore industrial. Which is just a few hours.)

They gave the 90% to JF/Rorqual in the original proposal. They decided to break uniformity. So it went both ways.

Hmm This ship will never be seen in high sec with these stats, which is a shame as the artwork looks impressive.

a 5% velocity bonus on 62m/s is about 2.5m/s per level, i can so see people maxing out the ore skill for this. This should probably be agility, so that its is actually usefull

Incursion runners are the only people in eve that move large ships regularly, mission runners may rebase 1-2 times in a year and buying an expensive ship (im guessing carrier prices) to cut down the number of round trips by 2/3 seems like a bit of overkill

People will have to train another skill (i am guessing it will cost the same as the freighter skill at 100m) to fly a ship that can move 3 battleships. i cannot imagine many people will be training it to use a ship they may fly 2-3 times a year

being able to carry 3 battleships is very pointless needs to be at least 5 to make its designed functionality with while

The tank is way too weak a properly tanked orca can hit 410k ehp, it needs to be double an orca at least, and should be comparable to a carrier (as should all capitals given the number of capital armour plates required) It is technically a carrier minus the drones and triage reps and if you do allow carriers in hi sec this ship will probably be dead on arrival in terms of usefulness.


People who will end up using this ship probably wont know the first thing about proper tanks and will use it to stick all there worldly possessions into and will rage quit when the loose everything flying through udema.


The cargo hold is way to small for someone wanting to use this ship to rebase by the time you fill the 4k with cap charges tractor units, depot ammo you will still need to jump into a hauler to get most of the stuff you will need, cargo bay needs to be bigger perhaps on par with the orca, so the ship actually becomes convenient.

To make it actually more useful to more people
1) perhaps give it a jump drive so hot droppers can use it to pick up their ships after they pod home after a hotdrop.
2) Make the bay re-configurable through modules, One could give it a really large cargo hold, one a ship maintenance bay, another a large fleet hanger that could be used in ice belts similar to how the freighter/orca combos currently work, as well as speciallized bays for moving ore, minerals etc. The ship will need to be able to have everyday uses or it will never be used
3) Both

Just web it into warp, people do this all the time with freighters full of goodies and don't get caught because it is actually very very hard to catch them and you never get to scan them in the first place.

how does this work? instawarping means you cant lock it regardless of your scan res,
leaving smartbombs as only option at your disposal to kill them.

I came here hoping to see a ship that will actually be useful now that you have basically made long range rebasing an extremely painful process and came away disappointed (que the bittervet soundtrack).

Capacity (cargo / ship maintenance array): 4000 / 1300000 (goes up to 1.6 something with ore freighter 5)

So it carriers about 50% more in ships than a carrier and less than half worth of cargo. Granted for people who only have carriers maybe this is a worthwhile ship. While I understand that you stated that it is a niche ship and I guess it can go into high sec (which is totally useless for someone like me) this seems to make it way too limiting. I think you should consider bumping those stats to at least 10k m^3 cargo room and AT LEAST match a supercarrier worth of ship space. Otherwize you've basically made a purpose designed ship which gets outdone by a non purpose designed ship. Granted not everyone has a super or a titan but those ships are no means few and far between anymore.