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Exactly this - its even worse after clearing a C6/C5 data site for nothing of value in the cans.....LITERALLY the only items in the data site cans are datacores, and...........carbon.

Please....I really hate playing other games....

*Facepalm* Yes of course. Please ignore my previous statement. Empire war since patch so havent actually sold anything.

I will go be quiet in a corner now.

So after my first couple of post Phoebe fleets I must say that in usual CCP fashion, after many years of not addressing force projection it has been over-nerfed. I think in it's current state it will just cause fewer 0.0 people to login. It became much more difficult for fleets to achieve meaningful things in just 1-2h, hurting more casual players and increases the strain on enablers and FCs.

- The jump fatigue cap needs to be reduced significantly to something like 12-16h so that players can actually use their caps on the next day no matter what they did the day before.
- Use of dreads and triage was hurt beyond what was necessary
- Warping caps to gates causes problems when there is a Titan in the warp bubble, as all other ships don't land at 0.
- Severe bumping occurs when warping caps to gates and not immediately jumping.

Now that force projection is practically dead, all the nerfs to supers and titans, which were originally done in the name of reducing force projection, should be looked at and undone. Comitting a char to a space coffin was bad enough and now the pain of using them was greatly upped so unless CCP wants to lose a lot of super accounts, something good needs to come out of this for them too.


Exactly this is happening, as now there is the option of putting in EVEN MORE preparatory effort to get an edge. This means that the proportion of non-fun things to fun things an alliance has to do to be successful just became worse.

After being redirected to the proper forum by ISD Ezwal, I repost my issue with very slight tweaks:

I have systematically worked my way through potential dillweeds on comms, failing speakers, failing audio chip onboard computer, cell phone emanations into the amplifier of speakers, and not found the problem until just now.

Anomaly sounds when the mouse passes over them in space. These sounds either need to go away completely, add a volume slider to the advanced sound panel, or -- the most obvious solution: Put a 2 second delay on it to differentiate between intentional mouse overs and unintentional mouse overs.

Grabbing a point in space and dragging to move the camera around should not induce craptastic 1/10 of a second sound clips of anomaly pirate buzz. Moving my mouse from the overview to my modules should not make sound. This is not a user interface enhancement.

CCP please fix.

Also...I originally dumped my complaint in 'general' since I wasn't quite sure what to do with Phoebe Issues and Phoebe Feedback. This isn't a failure of a feature not working the way it was designed. It is working exactly as it was supposed to and therefore not an 'issue'. It isn't plain trolling 'Feedback' about how I hate jump changes. Under other topics it is most similar to a feature request. Unfortunately there are 9000 stickied feature request topics...so this UI tweak probably wouldn't get much notice.

Just got the escalation for the Guristas Scout Outpost from a Refuge site. It was 8 jumps away and two deep in low sec. Not. Gonna. Happen.

Got another one using my alt from a Hideaway and it was also 8 jumps away but at least it was in high sec. Going to be odd running that in Amarr space but I guess I can deal.

The one in Amarr space dropped the Pithum C-Type adaptive invun field. I think I will stop complaining now!

Sorry to cherry pick one line of a comment made by a senior Dev at CCP but I do feel it needs highlighting.

To take issue with this premise, 'What best option' are you making here because I see a number of options open to players not least of which as we have recently found out is the '**** that factor', which is what most Cap pilots did at the time, simply looked at these so called options and said screw that idea and logged off.

Crippling force projection for Combat Capitals was a laudable idea in many ways but to the extent that players find there use so tedious and as you put it, hateful, they feel little or no enthusiasm to even log in there accounts let alone use them, so in essence your idea falls at the first hurdle, that of player choice, they had one, looked at the options available and simply choose not to engage with this new idea from CCP, one wonders how many will still be subbed in three months time, was this your intention??.

The use of Jump bridges, normally a localized function of travel around an owned region also nerfed almost to extinction making simple movements from system to system so tedious that for the most part as we saw last time you touched this subject, people are choosing to remain in there current locations rather than undergo the problems of gate travel, Risk Aversion + Player choice = even less movement., again was this your intended goal??.

Game development gave a prediction that CCP was to return EVE to a sandbox environment, instead all indications are there efforts are creating a Desert, The incentive has to be worth consideration, the risk involved in achieving goals managable, but not to the extent that tedium forces players to consider there subscriptions worthless. Player choice you wanted, I predict that is exactly what your going to achieve if you keep on this road.

Also can confirm, the average number of jumps for expeditions has increased substantially. Not so much fun going 9 jumps every time. In many cases I've stopped running them now - if I wanted to avoid lowsec my last one was 27 jumps. Whatever was changed, it was better the way it was before.....

I had couple of escalations yesterday and they were 3-4 jumps away.

Try clicking on the red/green arrow to the right of the price

Just wanted to touch base on this. Got back in game and all implants, including those mysteriously not showing in my inventory, were present. All is well on this front.