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Lister Dax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-11-08 12:12:49 UTC
Templar One explains a lot about Jove/Sleepers...
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#42 - 2014-11-08 15:18:23 UTC
Hibernator X wrote:


Bzzt wrong, try again! This answer has not been revealed, but to quote the wiki:

"Eventually, the Jove cut off all contact between themselves and the rest of the cluster. Today, the Jove are rarely seen by the rest of New Eden, leading to persistent rumors that the disease has claimed them completely, though long range sensors continue to report activity in Jove space. "


Bzzt!!!!

Try again.

The "Jove" have become what is often known as an allegory.

Let's see if you can put two and two together and figure out what the "Jove/Jovian Race/Jovian Space" is an allegory for.

Roll

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#43 - 2014-11-08 16:02:17 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
The Null alliance rush for the space would out surpass the landrushes of the 1900's lol

and then we are back to square one again


Such negativity, Have some heart!

That is why Null has got to where it is at the moment.

The question is with this can the Jove respond to the incursion?



We had a land rush once, the space was utterly ****, and no one really wanted to live there. A few groups moved in and fought over it for a bit of time, i think about 3 months then it stabilized for about 6 months, then the rise of legion of xxxdeathxxx and IRC cause the region to fall to the two entities, and null returned to boring.

The best thing they could of done for this new land, was when they added bounties to drones. Then the crappy alliances that only had the space cause no one else wanted it were swept aside. And we are again back to where we are.

So no, adding jove space, with null sec not fixed, changes nothing.

The jove are dead, or they are controlling the sleeper drones

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#44 - 2014-11-08 16:06:05 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Do people actually believe there is a ton of unreleased content hidden somewhere or something?

There's no Jove space to open. There's some unreachable systems labelled 'Jove Empire'. There's nothing actually there. Just empty systems.

If that's your standard for content, CCP could just label a region "Yo Momma" and open her up for business.



there are unreleased content that is in eve right now, but you can;t play it. It was mentioned in one of the interviews that one thing they are trying to fix is with escalation and other mission related stuff. there are things that were released to TQ but for one reason or another don;t ever get activated. If ccp corrects this issue you will see a ton of 'new' content.

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#45 - 2014-11-08 23:23:55 UTC
If Null Sector Alliances wanted to go into Jove Space they would have to first give up a certain percentage of their territory. For every system that a Null Sector Alliance wanted to claim in Jove space it would have to give up four Null Space systems.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2014-11-08 23:32:19 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
If Null Sector Alliances wanted to go into Jove Space they would have to first give up a certain percentage of their territory. For every system that a Null Sector Alliance wanted to claim in Jove space it would have to give up four Null Space systems.


Good luck trying to enforce that.
Treyah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2014-11-09 05:19:25 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Do people actually believe there is a ton of unreleased content hidden somewhere or something?

If that's your standard for content, CCP could just label a region "Yo Momma" and open her up for business.



Confirming I'd like to live in "Yo Momma"
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2014-11-09 09:35:43 UTC
Paul Panala wrote:
If CCP did this, it would have to come with a lot of new content in the game. A new area that works pretty much like existing null but with different NPCs would be very disappointing. It would need to be something new and different.

I like the idea of NPCs using player tactics to protect their space. It could also be interesting if there was a way to gain standings with the Jove to be allowed in their space. I am not suggesting it should be a carebear kingdom, just that there should be some kind of structure, not just null and rats.


Improving the AI is good but if you want to fight ships using unpredictable human tactics and with human like approaches to combat, just go and fight players in our existing space. I'm not trying to be facetious but what you want, you can already get. Jove or any new space will be a take on the current mechanics and with player density as it is, more space isn't really an answer.

You guys should take advantage of the power projection nerf and go get some null space. There is plenty for the taking in the south and won't be hard to take and hold.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-11-09 12:36:51 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
Would it not be more interesting and far better content to open up Jove Space than create a different type of wormhole?
We have had sleepers in WH space for a long time so now lets get the Jove awakened. The Null alliance rush for the space would out surpass the landrushes of the 1900's lol


I would only support this if the Jove actively repel invasion like sleepers on steroids. They should camp gates with bubbles, use caps to attack POSes, and hot drop mining fleets.


The lore of the Jove has to be held true of course.

Who would not want the chance of flying a jove ship??


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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#50 - 2014-11-09 12:41:52 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Would it not be more interesting and far better content to open up Jove Space than create a different type of wormhole?
We have had sleepers in WH space for a long time so now lets get the Jove awakened. The Null alliance rush for the space would out surpass the landrushes of the 1900's lol


Why would it? You don't even know what is there, might be more high sec boredom for all we know.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#51 - 2014-11-09 13:00:12 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
My Gnosis and Apotheosis are sad they are left out by you.

Those are developed by the Society of Conscious Thought, not the Jove themselves. They're inspire by Jove technology, but a lot more primitive. More like designs from a century ago made for children to play with (us).

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Miko Valentine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-11-09 13:37:37 UTC
finaly the Earth got access throu a Blackhole or anew gate and "Earth EvE Gate the EvE Gate collapsed storynot long forgotten likthe Capsulers did .... Earth didnt needed to recover the hole tofly into space Knowledge after the Gate collapsed .... thats why Jove trys to set a foot into the Empire and the ways to JoveSpace is open ..... maybeee? xD
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#53 - 2014-11-09 13:50:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Miko Jin
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
Would it not be more interesting and far better content to open up Jove Space than create a different type of wormhole?
We have had sleepers in WH space for a long time so now lets get the Jove awakened. The Null alliance rush for the space would out surpass the landrushes of the 1900's lol


Why would it? You don't even know what is there, might be more high sec boredom for all we know.


Three questions and Three answers below.

1, "Why would it?" Greed, power, knowledge and the sense of adventure.

2, " You don't even know what is there" Neither did the original capsuleers going through the Eve gate.

3, "might be more high sec boredom for all we know." Who says it would be high sec or any known space? Read your question two!
[/quote]
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2014-11-09 14:10:22 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
My Gnosis and Apotheosis are sad they are left out by you.

Those are developed by the Society of Conscious Thought, not the Jove themselves. They're inspire by Jove technology, but a lot more primitive. More like designs from a century ago made for children to play with (us).


SoCT is founded by the Jovians...

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#55 - 2014-11-09 14:16:24 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
My Gnosis and Apotheosis are sad they are left out by you.

Those are developed by the Society of Conscious Thought, not the Jove themselves. They're inspire by Jove technology, but a lot more primitive. More like designs from a century ago made for children to play with (us).


SoCT is founded by the Jovians...

It was founded by a jovian renegade. They're not spreading jove technology and the ships are not jove ships. Most likely using jove inspired design principles with advanced empire technology.

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Erin Crawford
#56 - 2014-11-09 14:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Erin Crawford
Rowells wrote:
Miko Jin wrote:
The Null alliance rush for the space would out surpass the landrushes of the 1900's lol

and then we are back to square one again

This ^

Jove space would become part of the big blue within a month if not a week - and then...?!
There would have to be some seriously advanced AI(Jove) pushing back and countering all player-based activity in the area for this not to happen.

Would be even more interesting, other than just another land-grab rush, if all players from all factions and alliances needed to work together to conquer and hold new space. If the AI was scalable in difficulty it would match whatever EVE's player-base threw at it - making it an extremely long and difficult battle to conquer, let alone to own and maintain!

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Nestene Corsten
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#57 - 2014-11-10 00:37:38 UTC
The closest we got to the Jovian was the body parts of some Jovian Ambassador who's clone was blasted into smithereens across the empires. that was in 2005 when jump clones was added in Red Moon Rising expansion.
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-11-10 09:17:07 UTC
Miko Jin wrote:
Would it not be more interesting and far better content to open up Jove Space than create a different type of wormhole?
We have had sleepers in WH space for a long time so now lets get the Jove awakened. The Null alliance rush for the space would out surpass the landrushes of the 1900's lol


Because the Jove are technologically superior to the rest of New Eden ?... (and by technologically superior I mean they are the Monolith and the Empires are the monkeys)
Because they have turned an entire Amarrian Armada into scrap metal, so fast they didn't even got to press F1 ?...
Because it's a plot mechanic that keeps the universe of EvE revolving ?....
Because it will spoil the mystery ?....

Or do you want the new expansion with the Jove race and the all new Jove starter zone?...
Some things are better left in the dark.

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Signal11th
#59 - 2014-11-10 11:16:08 UTC
I would go to Jove space but it would take so long to get there now.....Blink

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-11-10 11:28:25 UTC
If Jove space were to be opened up, I wouldn't be satisfied unless it had defence forces that would require player fleets of dozens if not hundreds of ships to take on. The Jove invented the capsule and were using it long before the four empires got their hands on them. Jove NPCs should be able to target capsules. Reverse-engineering even a single Jovian module should require significant effort - deploying an entire fully-fitted Jovian ship should be a thing of legend. Jove space should be true endgame content - unskilled pilots need not apply.

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