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Which is kindof silly, as it's supposed to be our capsule's neural OS, yes?
Anyway I agree it looks more like a modern OS, and the one from 10 years ago looked its age too. And that's fine. As long as I'm not dragging the contents of my hangar into a trash bin. Consider myself a trekker too, but I'll never understand what makes sense about LCARS.

P.S. +1 native OSX client. But let's be real.

Yes, I agree. This is a nice step in modernization.
Do not drop it CPP.

Castelo

Not sure how adding more transparency and glowy things constitutes a 'new UI' but whatever.

I put a new skin on Windows, but it's still the same ****** OS.

horrible. I like 100% blackout of the background behind UI elements, it is vastly more functional than being able to see things i have no interest in at all. If i want to see them i would turn my camera that direction or turn my ship.

As things currently are you can choose translucent or opaque window options. I doubt i am the only player running opaque UI elements so why take away a very functional option and force us all to take translucent crappy windows.

disagree - this looks incredible - excellent work dev team!!

Please add option to disable all transparency. Transparency is pain for eyes.

Old icons are much, much better.

Great work, I'm excited to have holograpic menus!

That being said, what plans are there for the neocom menu and associated ribbon? The new transparency is wonderful, but at this stage is there still an option to remove some of the unused whitespace?

If you are looking for a slimmer UI, a great place to look to cut down on noise is the segments that are constantly displayed.

great: icons always looked hacked together. awesome

very bad: blur and mostly opaque. I use transparent windows full-time, with a hint of opaqueness. transparent means I want to see through it. a tiny amount of opaque is good for the contrast from the viewport that is the client. (don't block the viewport or blur it)

screenshot of Sisi at the moment.


this tells me you don't know how windows are used. make sure you allow players to decide what windows are transparent or not. I couldn't find those controls on Sisi. windows are used in creative ways, and yes while in space and while in harm's way.

-market windows. needed in space for tactical purpose of seeing what level of activity the locals have, and what's at their disposal. pre-emptively buying up items from market to deny access to resupply also happens, usually while in space.

-inventory windows. held open to quickly select for use or deployment. until you add buttons that allow me to deploy a bubble or cyno inhib, I need to access inventory first, but it's better to just keep it open.

-wallet. the Balance is very responsive and good for keeping just visible enough to see it update. for bounties, and market orders used as an activity probe. (you buy stuff on market and relist to see when people buy them. like ships, or guns. good for knowing whether someone plans to undock again after losing their stuff. it's what makes a tactical market character a thing to have, for the regional range while in space.)

I assume these opacity settings are forced (and not adjustable) for the sake of playtesting. right? I just noped the client because it's disturbing.

in the screenshot i linked above, did you see the right click menu open in front of the sun

until you reinvent the UI away from the concept of data tables, I need to see those tables, but also see through them, with just enough opacity to compensate for bright nebulae / sun / clouds. I'm sorry but I can't let you think this "web 2.0"-ification of EVE is a good idea, or anything else besides detrimental window dressing.

you know what, yeah. I'm disturbed now. the forum also saw a visual simplification that reduced its usefulness. correct me if I'm wrong, but do I sense a theme of visual updates at the cost of usability? comparison of old notifications vs new.

it's as if someone above the team level at CCP has decided the look of EVE should be "improved" at all costs, and turned into an iOS experience. but this is not innovation. it is imitation at best.

From Dev Blog

'Simple theme selection will be replacing the old RGB sliders and dropdowns.'

I just dont understand why CCP is removing player choice ?

Did they not learn anything from the notification drama ?
Remove choice and people get upset.

Keep the existing colour / transperancy customisation options and you have satisfied customers ..... Provide additional customisation options and you have very happy customers..

If removing customisation in favor of offering a handful of 'faction' themes is a monetization scheme ... eg selling additinal themes in the nex store... im going to be fairly angry

sooo... let's add transparency and we are now from 2000 to 2014... really...

i know marketing is all about hype, but how about beeing one game that would be honest, what you are doing is not new "modern" ui, it's just re-skinning of old one.

For one, "modern" ui's are about clear reading, spacing, responcivness, maintaining same quality on multiple screen sizes or optimizing functionality by available screen relastate.

how about tweaking ui that you could split your screen into 4 game windows (4 clients - both in 1080HD and 4K) and ui would still be usable or even spliting eve over serveral moinitors and controlling what is shown on each (like classical free camera on main, top down tactical view on right side, fleet composition and status layouts on left, etc)

aaanyways, just my 5 cents.