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A New Corp Tax

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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#1 - 2014-11-08 12:58:39 UTC
To put it quite simply:
There should be a corp tax for positive market transactions. (capped at ~3-5%)

why?
If you think about it, the two most common ways to earn ISK is with rat bounties and selling loot (or ore for miners). But only one of those is taxable by the corp. And I see no reason why one of the two major money makers should be taxed if the other one isn't. Or why one of them shouldn't be taxed if the other one is.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-11-08 13:21:51 UTC
So what, you get a cut of all their plex sales? All the stuff they bought two years before joining your corp and horded till the price was right?

Travelling at the speed of love.

Tonai Kion
Physics Says No
Brotherhood of Spacers
#3 - 2014-11-08 13:22:25 UTC
If you look at the market as it is now, often times profit margins are very slim. What you are suggesting would reduce those margins even further.

Also counterpoint:

I contract my stuff to my NPC trader alt. No money for corp. Now my corp can't collect taxes on it, and I can undercut those fools who do play it fair with their corporations and now they can't compete with me without actually losing money.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#4 - 2014-11-08 13:35:13 UTC
they would have too add same tax to NPC corps

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ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#5 - 2014-11-08 14:05:42 UTC
Tonai Kion wrote:
If you look at the market as it is now, often times profit margins are very slim. What you are suggesting would reduce those margins even further.

Also counterpoint:

I contract my stuff to my NPC trader alt. No money for corp. Now my corp can't collect taxes on it, and I can undercut those fools who do play it fair with their corporations and now they can't compete with me without actually losing money.

Obviously NPC corps would have that tax too
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#6 - 2014-11-08 14:10:45 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Obviously NPC corps would have that tax too


What about 1man alt corps?
Discomanco
We pooped on your lawn
#7 - 2014-11-08 15:28:36 UTC
Put taxes on market sales and I'll contract all my stuff to a trading alt in a 1man corp with 0% tax.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#8 - 2014-11-08 15:38:42 UTC
While we're at it, let's put a corp tax on insurance payouts.
This would, of course, include the noobship when podding around.
Roll

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2014-11-08 16:12:20 UTC
if you want to tax miners, tax ore reprocessing.

or you could provide an orca or hauler for your corp and have mining ops, then take a cut for the corp.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-11-08 16:13:49 UTC
More corp tax options; yes please.
Market transaction tax, as explained won't work.
LP tax would work.
Refining tax would work. (A certain % of reprocessed goods and ores would get sent to the corporate diliveries section)

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

Ix Method
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-11-08 16:24:09 UTC
Cut of market fees for outpost owners.
Cut of anything done in a POS (input/yield tax, depending I guess)

There's loads of ways to do this that aren't terrible.

Travelling at the speed of love.

Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#12 - 2014-11-08 17:03:37 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Obviously NPC corps would have that tax too


What about 1man alt corps?

they set their own tax
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#13 - 2014-11-08 17:15:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Hengle Teron wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Obviously NPC corps would have that tax too


What about 1man alt corps?

they set their own tax


To zero, dodging their main's corp tax.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#14 - 2014-11-08 17:26:21 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Obviously NPC corps would have that tax too


What about 1man alt corps?

they set their own tax


To zero, dodging their main's corp tax.

so?

Farmers are dodging the tax that exist now and no one has that as a point against that tax
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-11-08 18:52:40 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
No to the OP, stop sucking at making isk. Damn easy doing anything in EVE but being AFK in station.

As for everyone else, the 11% tax is coverage for "wardec" protection in lore but not gank proof ability in game mechanics. If someone is making 1man corps, there is...get this....NOT A MANDITORY TAX AS SET BY CCP, designers of the game. Where in the EULA is there a thing that says you have to pay a tax....nope, otherwise it would of been built in regardless. They still folding corp after you dec them...stop decing them and get out of highsec or gank them in a BC fit for the same price otherwise CCP can just make corp creation equal to war dec cost.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#16 - 2014-11-08 19:57:48 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
No to the OP, stop sucking at making isk. Damn easy doing anything in EVE but being AFK in station.

Luckily we have a faceless npc corp alt to tell us how it is.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#17 - 2014-11-08 21:17:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
I guess the tax goes to the corp the player is in, right? No NPC tax to siphon ISK out of the game. Which means that I do the trading with a char in an alt corp and the money stays with me regardless. So, what's the point? Why should the corp get a share of my capital for stuff I bought with my money and re/sell with my money?

In contrast, everyone in the corp should lick my boots and be grateful that I take on the tedious task of seeding markets and provide toys and material. The corp, henceforth, should subsidize my activity, if anything at all. Roll

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Doomheim
#18 - 2014-11-08 21:33:37 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Stuff I agree with.

This idea is so bad you made the unthinkable happen Shocked

Travelling at the speed of love.

Iain Cariaba
#19 - 2014-11-08 21:39:34 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
To put it quite simply:
There should be a corp tax for positive market transactions. (capped at ~3-5%)

why?
If you think about it, the two most common ways to earn ISK is with rat bounties and selling loot (or ore for miners). But only one of those is taxable by the corp. And I see no reason why one of the two major money makers should be taxed if the other one isn't. Or why one of them shouldn't be taxed if the other one is.

To put it quite simply:
There are so many ways to bypass this bad idea that it is nothing more than a way to penalize those who don't bypass it.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#20 - 2014-11-08 21:44:38 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
I guess the tax goes to the corp the player is in, right? No NPC tax to siphon ISK out of the game. Which means that I do the trading with a char in an alt corp and the money stays with me regardless. So, what's the point? Why should the corp get a share of my capital for stuff I bought with my money and re/sell with my money?

In contrast, everyone in the corp should lick my boots and be grateful that I take on the tedious task of seeding markets and provide toys and material. The corp, henceforth, should subsidize my activity, if anything at all. Roll

And why should the corp get a share of the bounties you get for killing rats ?
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