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Rek Seven
The Persuaders
#61 - 2014-11-07 08:50:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
I'm interested to hear more about the new systems. I hope that the cloning facility in Thera only allow you to swap clones within that system or possibly jump to another wormhole station with stations in.

...But why no wormhole statics? That part is a bit disappointing but i'll have to wait to hear more before i can understand that decision i guess.

One point of concern is the fact that Thera sounds like it will be dominated by one large coalition. That might not be a bad thing providing the owners aren't making stupid amounts of isk compared to all other space.

@ CCP Fozzie will my roaming sleepers be in this system? Blink
Anthar Thebess
#62 - 2014-11-07 09:14:20 UTC
All player constructed stargates link to this system Twisted
Marox Calendale
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2014-11-07 10:09:37 UTC
Tiger Tesla wrote:
Maybe this will be CCP's attempt to still get the "media numbers" from having large space battles. Slow night? Tired of ratting/scanning/roaming? Oh, I hear there is a fight brewing in Thera.

All of K-space (and wormholers with connections to k-space or thera proper) jump clone into HUGE battles. No travel time needed. You always know what system it will be happening in.

Yeah, because HUGE battles with Tidi going down to 1% is what all Eve Players want...

Quote:
It might be hard to get to the first time, but once you can put a clone there you can always find your way back.


That reason alone might make it a huge market for PvP. No Caps, No Cynos, no idea how many people are in system. Maybe your 30 man fleet is the big fish. Maybe there is a 100 man fleet combat scanning you down. Maybe there is a 500 man group about to land on your brawl.

I predict more than 100 Scanprobes all the time being working is this System. All wormholers ara able to scan, even mostly every WH alt is able to scan. Even if Thera will be really as 1.000 AU big it won´t be a big deal to bring on more scanners. This may be only an issue for nullbears.
unimatrix0030
Mass Collapse
It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
#64 - 2014-11-07 10:56:09 UTC  |  Edited by: unimatrix0030
Bad that it is in stations though.
In a pos you can d-scan and see if anyone is out of the shields.
A system with no local and only stations... .
Anyone up for a alpha strike fleet outside of the stations?
The first one poking his head out will go boom.
Or vice versa, you hang at a station in a 10 man fleet and then 100 man fleet undocks, or 2 fleets of 100not friendly to each other... .

Well at least many many many more people will now get to know why docking in wormholes(and by extensions stationgames) is a no no... .

No local in null sec would fix everything!

RudinV
The Dozen
3200.
#65 - 2014-11-07 11:02:46 UTC
funny, looks like most of the peeps here never heard/used insta undock bookmarks
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
Riddle us this
#66 - 2014-11-07 11:14:47 UTC
unimatrix0030 wrote:
Bad that it is in stations though.
In a pos you can d-scan and see if anyone is out of the shields.
A system with no local and only stations... .
Anyone up for a alpha strike fleet outside of the stations?
The first one poking his head out will go boom.
Or vice versa, you hang at a station in a 10 man fleet and then 100 man fleet undocks, or 2 fleets of 100not friendly to each other... .

Well at least many many many more people will now get to know why docking in wormholes(and by extensions stationgames) is a no no... .


Which of the 420 (reddit rumor) stations in that system do you plan to camp?
Zappity
Kurved Trading
#67 - 2014-11-07 11:17:12 UTC
Did he say no local or no immediate local? Wouldn't be surprised if it was delayed or something.

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HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2014-11-07 11:17:28 UTC
calaretu wrote:
Which of the 420 (reddit rumor) stations in that system do you plan to camp?


Those with most / enough guests on the Station?Blink

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#69 - 2014-11-07 11:22:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
HoruSeth wrote:
calaretu wrote:
Which of the 420 (reddit rumor) stations in that system do you plan to camp?


Those with most / enough guests on the Station?Blink


Thera IV-4 ofc. If you don't camp the one station with the market, you're doing something wrong.

RudinV wrote:
funny, looks like most of the peeps here never heard/used insta undock bookmarks


#Bubbles
marVLs
#70 - 2014-11-07 11:27:20 UTC
I hope bubbles won't be allowed there...
Winthorp
#71 - 2014-11-07 11:29:29 UTC
marVLs wrote:
I hope bubbles won't be allowed there...


Stay in HS if you don't like bubbles.
Necharo Rackham
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#72 - 2014-11-07 11:35:47 UTC
I can't see why there would be more than a limited market there to supply local demand. It's difficult to supply in large quantities, and there is no reason to go to a system which is constantly moving around to trade when you could just go to Jita.

If it has some kind of special quality about it then it'll become dominated by one coalition, if it doesn't then it'll become a wasteland - beyond a certain size things kind of cease to matter - why would you go looking for fights in a system where you couldn't even use dscan properly (because every celestial is separated by much more than 14AU).
unimatrix0030
Mass Collapse
It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
#73 - 2014-11-07 11:38:40 UTC
marVLs wrote:
I hope bubbles won't be allowed there...

Security status 0 so expect bubbles and lots of them, in all flavors .

No local in null sec would fix everything!

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#74 - 2014-11-07 12:03:58 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Whilst we have absolutely no idea of how CCP will handle stations, or the space for that matter, the main trading station, would become unuseable if there is not a mechanism to keep access to it open.

Putting a station in a wormhole is a honeypot. Whilst one can think lots of content creation must be good ? Right?
What would actually occur is they become suicide zones. You could reduce or increase ones personal opportunity to increase risk or lower it only marginally. Just being there will ensure combat 99 times out of 100.

So the logical, simplest, way to handle this situation is to have VERY high power station guns that reach all of the stations grid, that react to any agressive action, swiftly and viciously!

This would be similar to a port in the carribean during the privateer/pirate days, no one would fight in the port, or get a cannon ball up ones raggity arse!

Outside the port? Well we all know how lawless that was! No shortage of conflict there!

There will be many places to find combat, rather than hanging around at the station closing down all activity and trade.

I am sure CCP will have thought of this and have their own solutions, as they naturally want the new space to be used by many.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Winthorp
#75 - 2014-11-07 12:08:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Necharo Rackham wrote:
I can't see why there would be more than a limited market there to supply local demand. It's difficult to supply in large quantities, and there is no reason to go to a system which is constantly moving around to trade when you could just go to Jita.


To touch on this for a moment, if your popped outside your chain into HS and there was a fully stocked market just slightly above Jita prices would you burn the 13 jumps to Jita to buy what you needed?

Market nerds would inturn also be well aware that the people that would open up into Thera potentially might have really ****** routes to Jita and may see the benefit in stocking this market up to a healthy point. Those sellers might also avoid the 0.01 mouse scroll war a little.

Also if it does become a system full of conflict then obviously the basic war items would be in demand locally and not just from the random spawn in WHs.
corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2014-11-07 12:19:55 UTC
spaceghost69 wrote:
Perma Tidi incoming Roll


they have a plan in place.

it wont be 420 stations fozzies corrected that rumor on twitter.
Rek Seven
The Persuaders
#77 - 2014-11-07 12:44:35 UTC
Why no wormhole statics Corbexx? is there a reason other than "just because"?

IMO it would be cool to have one static for the 6 classes of wormhole system... Or could it be that CCP have listening to me and they're going to allow wormholers to build a wormhole generator to gain access to these new systems?? Shocked
Jack Miton
Perkone
Caldari State
#78 - 2014-11-07 13:00:32 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
Or could it be that CCP have listening to me

god i hope not...

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calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
Riddle us this
#79 - 2014-11-07 13:02:32 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
Why no wormhole statics Corbexx? is there a reason other than "just because"?

IMO it would be cool to have one static for the 6 classes of wormhole system... Or could it be that CCP have listening to me and they're going to allow wormholers to build a wormhole generator to gain access to these new systems?? Shocked


If so that would certainly make it a tradehub for wormholespace and also you would have perma connection from all the big groups to brawl eachother 23.75/7
Rek Seven
The Persuaders
#80 - 2014-11-07 14:28:59 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Or could it be that CCP have listening to me

god i hope not...


Unfurtunatly for your Spack Mitton, they already have: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=405240#post405240

Your welcome btw Roll