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So... About those Relic sites...
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Ayx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-11-05 06:45:23 UTC
Maybe I've just had a bad day with the RNG but, the loot seems to be worth about half of what it was before the patch, at best half. But that's only after 4-5 sites in null.

Also, the cans with the highest difficulty/red system core? out of 7 that I've successfully opened today, 3 were empty and the rest were... not deserving of the red system core, to say the least...

Perhaps tomorrow my luck will change...
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#2 - 2014-11-05 06:52:21 UTC
I can't speak on the value of the loot but if you're hacking empty cans you might try equipping a cargo scanner.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#3 - 2014-11-05 06:55:44 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
I can't speak on the value of the loot but if you're hacking empty cans you might try equipping a cargo scanner.


I keep a scram in that slot myself.
Ayx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-11-05 06:58:39 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
I can't speak on the value of the loot but if you're hacking empty cans you might try equipping a cargo scanner.


I stopped using a cargo scanner for various reasons... Most of them psychological.
Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-11-05 12:58:34 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
I can't speak on the value of the loot but if you're hacking empty cans you might try equipping a cargo scanner.


Stop encouraging cherry picking. It's an anal waste of other peoples time. CCP should make the cans impenetrable by cargo scanners. Bear

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#6 - 2014-11-05 13:39:58 UTC
+1 for anal waste.
Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-11-05 14:29:02 UTC
CCP have added them to C1-3 wormholes, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have adjusted the drop rate again to compensate for the increased availability of the sites.

It's barely worth doing any that aren't in -0.5 or lower. What?

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#8 - 2014-11-05 14:31:37 UTC
Reminder: If you don't hack all cans, the site won't despawn, which means no new site will spawn, which means on a roam you will find fewer sites, thus shooting yourself in your own foot.

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Lucrii Dei
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-11-05 14:42:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucrii Dei
Abrazzar wrote:
Reminder: If you don't hack all cans, the site won't despawn, which means no new site will spawn, which means on a roam you will find fewer sites, thus shooting yourself in your own foot.


If I remember correctly, there was an update that despawns the sites if at least one container is hacked, after an hour I think it is?

Edit: @CCP It is nice that faction data and relic sites in wormholes are varied between each faction rather than limited to specific regions as per K-Space. Bear

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Herrin Asura
Covert Operations Agency
#10 - 2014-11-05 15:07:14 UTC
Lucrii Dei wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Reminder: If you don't hack all cans, the site won't despawn, which means no new site will spawn, which means on a roam you will find fewer sites, thus shooting yourself in your own foot.


If I remember correctly, there was an update that despawns the sites if at least one container is hacked, after an hour I think it is?


Thats correct.
Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-11-05 15:31:16 UTC
Ayx Shewma wrote:
Maybe I've just had a bad day with the RNG...

That's all it probably is: bad luck. I've noticed no changes with relic sites, but I wouldn't take either of our experiences to mean much this close after a patch. And though I'm fairly certain CCP managed to make data sites even less worthwhile now, I'm still withholding judgment until I get more data.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-11-05 15:46:04 UTC
"I scanned 3 sites yesterday and had bad resultst, clearly a sign of a nerf!"

If that logic is right, CCP must´ve seriously buffed data sites. I did one yesterday and got 300+ mil in loot. That means, 100% of all data sites have more than 300mil ISK in them! Get out there and grab your free ISK!

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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#13 - 2014-11-05 20:34:26 UTC
Ayx Shewma wrote:
Maybe I've just had a bad day with the RNG but, the loot seems to be worth about half of what it was before the patch, at best half. But that's only after 4-5 sites in null.

Also, the cans with the highest difficulty/red system core? out of 7 that I've successfully opened today, 3 were empty and the rest were... not deserving of the red system core, to say the least...

Perhaps tomorrow my luck will change...


I am guessing someone was there before you and didnt loot them all so the site didn't despawn. I had this happen several times to me before the patch. Just loot it all and move on.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-11-05 20:43:23 UTC
I recently went on a relic-sploration-vacation to null, and after going through some 30 system jumps encountered a total of 2 relic sites, one of which had meagre loots to say the least.

Don't know if this was because Stain and Period Basis is being farmed faster than I can get at the sites...but it 'seemed' like availability of sites is sadly greatly reduced.

I will not be doing this in wormholes, where no local is present to help warn of impending doom; just not going to try and dscan constantly while also hacking a site, simply nuts. So think the only result of relics in WH's will be is more candy for residents, and day-trippers again being shut out.

In any event, here is my T3 of relic slurpage if anyone is interested. Just need to update the post to indicate pickings are now meagre. ::sadpanda::

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Would you like to know more?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2014-11-05 23:46:15 UTC
Herrin Asura wrote:
Lucrii Dei wrote:


If I remember correctly, there was an update that despawns the sites if at least one container is hacked, after an hour I think it is?


Thats correct.

Which patch, as I never saw notes on this.
somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
#16 - 2014-11-06 01:40:58 UTC
Just went exploring in a probe with very low skill training and found myself a WH, went into it after seeing it was green and figured ok a C1-C3. Took me awhile to scan a relic and data down but after doing that and getting to one of them I managed to eventually get about 15m in loot for a short time there. I guess I was lucky though cause after keeping an eye here and there on DSCAN I noticed a Tengu nearby scanning with sisters core probes. Anyway, not a TON of isk there but it was nice nonetheless to get anything considering my low skills and I really never run these.
Doctor Bonn Young
Drunken Reprobates
#17 - 2014-11-07 07:11:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Bonn Young
During my exploration of high- and lowsec I scan and run most relic and data sites I find. Often I find sites with one or two unhacked cans that are empty. I noticed that when cleaning those up the chance of respawn increases dramaticaly. If left without cleaning the chance another site spawns is far less.

So please when running those sites despawn them for your own loot.. P
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#18 - 2014-11-07 21:39:35 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Herrin Asura wrote:
Lucrii Dei wrote:


If I remember correctly, there was an update that despawns the sites if at least one container is hacked, after an hour I think it is?


Thats correct.

Which patch, as I never saw notes on this.


Odyssey 1.0.10: "An issue with Exploration sites not despawning has been fixed. Now, when any container is successfully hacked a despawn timer initiates."

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