EVE General Discussion

I can categorically say I have never awoxed, however such a thing will affect the eve universe as a whole. Have CCP really thought this through because honestly it sometimes seems as though they havn't got one clue. Now I like the idea that in the eve universe, it is possible to infiltrate a corporation/organisation to assassinate a particular despicable character/rich carebear with a pimped out boat that never leaves high sec. This means that eve will be seen as not as mean as people like it to be and it could suffer from such a change. Would I like some mechanic to replace awoxing, yes, something formal [bounty hunting, cough cough] or likewise.
Would something like the Guiding Hand Social Club Heist still be possible in todays CCP? Are todays CCP leaning a bit too much on the side of riskless gameplay?

I believe the direct consequence of this is that there will be more suicide gankers and more war deccing, this in turn will lead to riskless carebears moving themselves into npc corporations. If this is to be laid true, then I think the npc corp tax which is 11% I think, don't ask me I don't npc corp, should rise in response, in order to encourage people to stick with player corporations.

Apologies for terrible posting.

Well, if awoxing is going to be removed, removing it from corporations is as good a place as any.

Awoxers will find a way to awox, mostly because even if you remove awoxing tools, you don't educate dumb Corporations.

Just as gankers have found a way to kill more freighters since the recent buff, because Freighter pilots don't use those buffs. Nothing will change much. Eve will still be Eve (I hope).

Honestly, if you compare highsec in-corp awoxing to corp heists, you're either incredibly naive or incredibly ignorant, and shouldn't even comment on the matter. This change does not affect awoxing as a whole in eve, but only your ability to attack HIGHSEC corpmates without penalty. You can still awox in null, low, w-space. You know, the parts of eve you travel to once you're done hiding under the illusions of highsec safety. This much needed change is not a pre-cursor to the end of wardecs ganking, etc, and anyone who tells you otherwise can safely be lumped together with the Eve is dying crowd. Get real, and over yourself. The real money, corp thefts, are completely unaffected by this.

Hmm, i need to think over what you wrote and work on my reply. Interesting stuff though and topic, haven't thought about it in a while, lol.

What does everyone else think? ^^

Well... One issue is getting fixed along with this removal - the "won't dock so can't kick" issue. The downtime kick queue will fix that.

Other issues that will come up: I don't think E-Uni is the only corp in highsec to pop and pod our members if they go AFK on war-ops.

We've done this for years and it's necessary at times to deal with issues (one guy heard a thump and his kid yell from another room - he tossed a "AFK" into the mic and headed out. The next day, he apologized for having to dump & run his kid to the hospital. - sh** happens at times and he even thanked folks for making sure he didn't give a killmail to the WT's.)

We don't like leaving free-kills sitting in space so we do this ourselves. Then there are other situations... An FC once promised he'd sing a stupid song if they didn't catch some WT's a few years back. When they didn't catch the guys, he refused to sing so the fleet blew him away.

Little things like not leaving freebie kills floating there in your fleet as well as some of the interesting expressions from logi pilots about "auto return targeting" by combat pilots with the "oops... sorry" and "no you aren't, not yet anyway..." replies.

It doesn't just effect things like awoxing but other stuff, some funny things - others more serious but people will adapt to it.

stop posting on an alt carebear.

You can be 100% careful. Cross check names and search for history etc etc and still get awox'd. So you're point on recruiters "doing their job" is kind of redundant.

This is more to cater to the casual and/or younger player who doesn't have the time to do those sort of things, or does not have the knowledge on how to do so. They can't keep targeting older, "smarter" (*cough*) people as their audience, it just won't sustain the game.

As already mentioned there are still war decs and ganking to get rid of targets. So you can infiltrate a corp and steal their stuff or provide a warp @ 0 to a target for ganking.

This adds a risk factor to awoxing when there previously was none.

80% of people just wont undock when wardecced.

come on lets be honest here.

The only reason behind this is "oooo I dont want to loose my ship in high sec"

awoxing is a part of eve and an important one.

watch early trailers. it even gets promoted.

Stealing is not awoxing by the way.

Awoxing is a great tool to bring risk to high sec for example where people already cry that concord cant protect them fast enough.

edit : if eve is too risky or complicated for you just **** off back to WoW aka. HTFU

all of this.

another "harsh" part of the game departs with this patch.
Eve is loosing its appleal of harsh and cutthroat society, patch by patch.