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For the Warmongers

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#61 - 2014-11-02 11:56:32 UTC
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

And you still refuse to answer the original question, but it doesn't matter because I have a feeling I already know what the answer is. The point of it all has apparently gone over your head as well. It doesn't matter though since I now know how you are as a person and as a soldier. Also, you using the term 'civilian' like that is both derogatory in nature and incorrect.

So I am through talking with you since there is nothing of value to be gained and I'm not interested in getting into futile debates with an extremist who has no interest or desire for a peaceful resolution to this conflict.

Than make it damn clear, instead of writing a lot of incorrect assumptions.
And when gallenteans have "feeling" about right answer, in most cases they are straightforward wrong, just like they are starting making up "lack of discipline" and stuff like that. Somehow I think it was the initial goal of asking the question, just to blame in lack of discipline, where there were none. Or what was it? Can I have one incorrect assumption myself, or is it now gallente only prerogative?

Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

an extremist who has no interest or desire for a peaceful resolution to this conflict.

Thank you for showing us real gallentean face one more time. Instead of asking if I want a peaceful resolution or no, you shortsightedly assumed I don't, and just called ME extremist, where in this conflict extremists are and always were gallenteans.
Well, good job. I hope your federation will soon be destroyed and this will stop once and forever.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2014-11-02 12:06:46 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Than make it damn clear, instead of writing a lot of incorrect assumptions.

I did, you dense woman! Multiple times in fact! Do you even read a full post before flying off the handle like a madwoman?

Diana Kim wrote:
Instead of asking if I want a peaceful resolution or no, you shortsightedly assumed I don't, and just called ME extremist, where in this conflict extremists are and always were gallenteans.

Ok, alright...lets see where she's going...
Diana Kim wrote:
I hope your federation will soon be destroyed and this will stop once and forever.

Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees the irony in this...

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2014-11-02 12:09:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Zecthah, just go grab another three shots of espresso. You have misidentified me with a more erudite person.

I am very sure I do not sound like that.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#64 - 2014-11-02 12:17:22 UTC
The direct question would be like, just hypothetically, exempli gratia: "Tell me, Mr. Trees'ent, honestly, are you an idiot or no?"

And if you can't understand all the crimes gallentean committed against our peoples, how is it even possible to consider peace?!.. While such attitude persists, we will keep fighting until the victorious end.

If we can't bring justice with words, we will bring it with FIRE AND STEEL.
Glory to the State!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-11-02 12:32:08 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
The direct question would be like, just hypothetically, exempli gratia: "Tell me, Mr. Trees'ent, honestly, are you an idiot or no?"

And if you can't understand all the crimes gallentean committed against our peoples, how is it even possible to consider peace?!.. While such attitude persists, we will keep fighting until the victorious end.

If we can't bring justice with words, we will bring it with FIRE AND STEEL.
Glory to the State!


Alright, here's a direct question. Kim, honestly, are you an idiot or are you just pretending to be one to try and irritate everyone around you?
You want the original direct question again? Why don't I just quote it from the first time I asked.

Diana Kim wrote:
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

I'm curious. If you were ordered to cease hostilities against Gallentian forces from your chain of command, would you follow those orders?

When you aren't agree with given order, you have right to arrest your superior officer and claim this position. After the operation, though, you both will be presented to the tribunal and one of you will be executed, depending on tribunal's decision.

If you will notice, you either didn't read the full post and began the off-topic conversation about disobeying orders or are too dim-witted to notice when you are being asked a direct question on your own so it has to be pointed out to you.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#66 - 2014-11-02 13:01:32 UTC
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

You want the original direct question again? Why don't I just quote it from the first time I asked.

Diana Kim wrote:
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

I'm curious. If you were ordered to cease hostilities against Gallentian forces from your chain of command, would you follow those orders?

When you aren't agree with given order, you have right to arrest your superior officer and claim this position. After the operation, though, you both will be presented to the tribunal and one of you will be executed, depending on tribunal's decision.

If you will notice, you either didn't read the full post and began the off-topic conversation about disobeying orders or are too dim-witted to notice when you are being asked a direct question on your own so it has to be pointed out to you.

Okay, I have deleted the usual gallentean insults from your reply and try to answer to you, like you were a human.

I believe the answer was given in full, as a definitive answer to this question is not possible.
It can be replied with both yes or no depending on the situation.

With my reply I have implied, that negative answer is a valid possibility, and that it will lead to my death.
Pity you couldn't see and understand it then. I hope you will do now.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-11-02 13:17:19 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

You want the original direct question again? Why don't I just quote it from the first time I asked.

Diana Kim wrote:
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

I'm curious. If you were ordered to cease hostilities against Gallentian forces from your chain of command, would you follow those orders?

When you aren't agree with given order, you have right to arrest your superior officer and claim this position. After the operation, though, you both will be presented to the tribunal and one of you will be executed, depending on tribunal's decision.

If you will notice, you either didn't read the full post and began the off-topic conversation about disobeying orders or are too dim-witted to notice when you are being asked a direct question on your own so it has to be pointed out to you.

Okay, I have deleted the usual gallentean insults from your reply and try to answer to you, like you were a human.

I believe the answer was given in full, as a definitive answer to this question is not possible.
It can be replied with both yes or no depending on the situation.

With my reply I have implied, that negative answer is a valid possibility, and that it will lead to my death.
Pity you couldn't see and understand it then. I hope you will do now.


The usual Gallentean insults? You are quite possibly the biggest hypocrite I have ever come across, Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone. It would be a miracle if anyone would call you friend.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-11-02 13:30:15 UTC
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

The usual Gallentean insults? You are quite possibly the biggest hypocrite I have ever come across, Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone. It would be a miracle if anyone would call you friend.

Then you should call me Her Majesty Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone, the bringer of Miracles.

Besides that, have I answered you question NOW?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2014-11-02 13:39:46 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

The usual Gallentean insults? You are quite possibly the biggest hypocrite I have ever come across, Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone. It would be a miracle if anyone would call you friend.

Then you should call me Her Majesty Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone, the bringer of Miracles.

Besides that, have I answered you question NOW?

Modest too I see.
/sarcasm
I suppose that is the best answer I could expect from you. Yes or no. Either or. Which isn't really an answer but whatever. I'm bored with that since you're so obstinate about giving a clear answer to what should be easy. Especially since I did give a scenario. That scenario being if a cease-fire or peace treaty was signed between Caldari and Gallente. It doesn't matter any more. The moment is lost.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-11-02 14:58:12 UTC
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Zecthah Trees'ent wrote:

The usual Gallentean insults? You are quite possibly the biggest hypocrite I have ever come across, Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone. It would be a miracle if anyone would call you friend.

Then you should call me Her Majesty Miss High and Mighty example of shining superiority over everyone, the bringer of Miracles.

Besides that, have I answered you question NOW?

Modest too I see.
/sarcasm
I suppose that is the best answer I could expect from you. Yes or no. Either or. Which isn't really an answer but whatever. I'm bored with that since you're so obstinate about giving a clear answer to what should be easy. Especially since I did give a scenario. That scenario being if a cease-fire or peace treaty was signed between Caldari and Gallente. It doesn't matter any more. The moment is lost.

I said already, there is no clear answer to this question, should I repeat it third time? Usually first time is enough, at least for not-gallenteans.
Your so called "scenario" doesn't change anything, as have cases for both positive and negative answer for your question. If you don't understand how, contemplate on this:
After the cease fire was signed with gallenteans and Caldari Prime was transferred to the State, five years later gallentean backstabbers attacked our titan on the orbit of this planet and occupied half of the planet once again.

I will do whatever I can to protect our citizens from galletean treachery again.
If the cease-fire will leave physical possibility for gallentes to backstab us, they will do it.

Never trust a gallentean.

*

On the other hand, we should realize when enough is enough. When our space will be secured to acceptable degree, we should stop attacking and killing, saving our resources and lives from unnecessary losses.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

JP Eulienne
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2014-11-02 15:43:59 UTC
I told you so?
Zecthah Trees'ent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-11-02 15:46:36 UTC
JP Eulienne wrote:
I told you so?

I know, I know.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#73 - 2014-11-04 21:06:57 UTC
The right to arrest your commanding officer if you disagree with an order....

What a novel concept.

In the military of Diana Kim, this may be possible. but there would be a very small military anywhere in the universe, were this the case in any real military.

Sgt : "Jones, first watch"
Jones: "You're under arrest sir, i'm tired."

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#74 - 2014-11-04 22:54:54 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
The right to arrest your commanding officer if you disagree with an order....

What a novel concept.

In the military of Diana Kim, this may be possible. but there would be a very small military anywhere in the universe, were this the case in any real military.

Sgt : "Jones, first watch"
Jones: "You're under arrest sir, i'm tired."

Stupid gallentean is stupid.
And this is why the Federation must be destroyed.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#75 - 2014-11-04 23:20:48 UTC
Ok, You're not worth talking to.
You respond like a broken chatbot program.

Also, you do not understand comic exaggeration.
Fade into irrelevance like Heth did.
It is a deserving place for you.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Andrea Cemenotar
Elena Minasse Operations
#76 - 2014-11-05 09:50:12 UTC
Let me put some of mine opinions on matter.

Even now when You gallenteans preachers tells about peace gallentean militia is on the offence and federation occupies much of our territories .

Don't tell me about peace when you are continuing invasion.

Don't tell me about peace when my very homeworld is under your unjust occupation

Don't tell me that you are good guys and we are bad guys or that you are victtims of Caldarian "genocide-willing" mad people when it is you who always atack first.

Yes we Trade with Empire of Amarr. Yes we could trade with Republic of Minmatar. In distinct future we could also trade with federation but there is one issue with last statement - at first federation need to stop willing us death.

You claim that Federation could destroy Caldari any moment If they willed? I say its a propaganda lies. I agree that at this moment they does occupy much of states territory but the don't have the force - or even guts to destroy us.

About some Matar accusing us before in this thread for wilingness of atacking every non-caldari capsuleer in sight.

I'll tell you sth:

without direct order of my superior I'd never perform any hostile action agains ANY civil ship - even if it was gallente vessel.

There are only two groups of ships I'll engage every time that such engage would not be suicidal:
Gallente Navy in systems that are rightfully ours, and pirate vessels

and there is much of those first in many systems that are occupied by your militia.

Sadly at this moment I've got other assignment that requires my presence and resources away from the warfront - but eventually I'll be back there at the frontline shooting Your ships down - in defence of the State.

You really want peace?

Stop agressing out teritories. Withdraw your militia. Do not even think about backstabbing us again.
Be prepared that we will be untrustfull toward you. and then after years of you respecting our right to frredom and our lands we can go back to the table to resolve future of Federation and State in peacefully way.

If you truely want peace then you need to prove it - and your actions at this moment are mostly proving otherwise.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2014-11-05 09:54:08 UTC
I'll take "obvious sockpuppet" for 10 million, Charles.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#78 - 2014-11-05 09:56:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
I do not understand the propensity for Caldari and Minmatar to claim that the the Gallente and Amarr attacked first in the Empyrean War, and that it is therefore up to our governments to prove we want peace.

Was everyone asleep on YC110.06.10? Since when is the defender in war the one that has to prove they want peace?
Andrea Cemenotar
Elena Minasse Operations
#79 - 2014-11-05 10:07:41 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
I do not understand the propensity for Caldari and Minmatar to claim that the the Gallente and Amarr attacked first in the Empyrean War, and that it is therefore up to our governments to prove we want peace.

Was everyone asleep on YC110.06.10? Since when is the defender in war the one that has to prove they want peace?


as far as I recall at this moment Caldari state is the one "defending" on gallente-caldari war and from teh very beggining the Gallente were agressors - starting from the blockade of Caldari prime by following wars and ending on breaking ceasefire with operation Highlander.

although can't say anything in matter of Minmatar as I didn't studied their history at all - all I know that they used to be slaves and decided to rise up to fight their freedom from Amarr. Later they allied with Federation. and thats all my knowledge on Minmatar history
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2014-11-05 10:19:18 UTC
Andrea Cemenotar wrote:
as far as I recall at this moment Caldari state is the one "defending" on gallente-caldari war and from teh very beggining the Gallente were agressors - starting from the blockade of Caldari prime by following wars and ending on breaking ceasefire with operation Highlander.

You're almost certainly a Diana Kim sockpuppet, so I don't know why I'm bothering, but even so you're entirely wrong. The second and current Gallente-Caldari war was started when Tibus Heth violated every treaty the State had ever signed with both the Federation and CONCORD to launch a completely illegal sneak attack inside Federation territory. At threat of system-wide genocide the Federation were forced to hand over Caldari Prime not to the State but to Tibus Heth's private army. Not satisfied with the Federation's capitulation in this regard, the State then violated the ceasefire they themselves had called for to launch another invasion of the Federation's low-sec territory.

The State's low-sec territories are currently under occupation mostly because the Federation wants to keep the war the State started away from its own ground. We've seen the terrifying and deadly results of six months of corporate mismanagement of our sovereign worlds; we're not particularly interested in seeing it again.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.