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Dev blog: Guiding Light - The Mission Objective Guidance system

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Felix Judge
Regnum Ludorum
#21 - 2014-10-29 17:11:29 UTC
Generally okay.

I wonder, though, if the "You need to destroy all hostiles in the vicinity" does not give away too much info - by its very absence in those cases where you actually do NOT need to.

Part of the fun was to find out - sometimes by egging it - that fighting all the hostiles off was not the most clever way to solve the mission. If that icon is missing, I would know at once to stop shooting and try something else.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#22 - 2014-10-29 17:15:12 UTC
Info panel additions seem like a really good idea.

I will warn CCP though that a lot of new players have a problem with the agent info panel getting hidden, and they have no idea how to un-hide it.

I certainly don't want it to open on its own, but I suggest perhaps making the info panel toggle icon at the top of the screen a more obvious bright colour when a mission is active, but please no blinking.
Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-10-29 17:40:25 UTC
i like it

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#24 - 2014-10-29 17:53:34 UTC
Changes sound good, but I hope the mission briefing texts themselves stay. They contain alot of neat little lore parts or fun quotes. The descriptions & briefings also add to Eve's grimdark feel.

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Sarmatiko
#25 - 2014-10-29 17:57:22 UTC
I wonder if this will fix "objective in ore hold" bug. If not - this problem will be even more visible.

Also, please, fix ore amount for level 4 mining missions with ore (ofc if you want people completing them at all)
Currently it's easier to skip everything that is not gas or ice. Because, you know, boring mining is even more boring and non-profitable when you have to return to dungeon couple times and slowboat to asteroid.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#26 - 2014-10-29 18:29:13 UTC
Nathan Baxter wrote:
Meh ... still circling around the lack of updates and new content for mission for 6 or 7 years ... Really sad in my opinion and that fluff and updates of UI and frigate missions isn't cutting it after all this time.

PVE need so love really bad and just isn't coming band aid solution to appease the mass once in a while but really doesn't change much.


Disappointing at best.


NB


It's for the newbs man and really this is perfect.

They get lost all the time.

The Drake is a Lie
ISquishWorms
#27 - 2014-10-29 19:39:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ISquishWorms
Xercodo wrote:
Nathan Baxter wrote:
Meh ... still circling around the lack of updates and new content for mission for 6 or 7 years ... Really sad in my opinion and that fluff and updates of UI and frigate missions isn't cutting it after all this time.

PVE need so love really bad and just isn't coming band aid solution to appease the mass once in a while but really doesn't change much.


Disappointing at best.


NB


It's for the newbs man and really this is perfect.

They get lost all the time.


I was a noob once (some might still say I am) and I made it this far. Really is it that difficult?

This just seems like more needless fluff to me but if it helps the helpless or the ones that are not able to help themselves and keeps some happy then I am fine with it I guess.

‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#28 - 2014-10-29 20:07:57 UTC
Great change. Hopefully ill stop forgetting the damsel going forward. Words cannot do justice to the annoyance of making several jumps docking in the station then cannot complete the mission cuss you forgot to scoop her up...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Arcos Vandymion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2014-10-29 21:22:59 UTC
From

Right click
set destination
right click
add waypoint
accept
undock
jump
right click
warp to
activate hardeners
activate gate
F1
right click
read details
loot
jump
dock
complete


to


Right click
set destination
right click
add waypoint
accept
undock
jump
right click
warp to
activate hardeners
activate gate
F1
hover over
loot
jump
dock
complete

Change. Yup.
Everyone can make of that what she wants.
Oraac Ensor
#30 - 2014-10-29 22:30:29 UTC
Most of the proposals are ok-ish, but about as extreme as I could tolerate.

But automatic camera focus on the mission objective? No, please no. You might just as well put up a button marked 'Click here to complete mission'.
PerrinBash
Living the Dream
#31 - 2014-10-29 22:54:15 UTC
Right, so with dumbing down of eve your now allowing any active account to unlimited (basically) training, changed all the reprocessing, allow all of hi sec harassment and bumping as fair play, revamp of all manufacturing and research, making most skills to level 5 a thing of past, and don't allow freighters mid slots or rigs, or any capacity to defend themselves.
Your moving toward the end game, lets just make it happen. Select the top 15% of SP players to get jovian technology and let us wreck eve, or....just keep chipping away at it bit by bit.
Ki-Tarn Zilkia
Zilkia Intersystem Industries
#32 - 2014-10-29 23:57:33 UTC
I hope while you all are fixing up the mission system you also add in the missing agent pics like that guy in Tar during the SoE missions that doesn't have one.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#33 - 2014-10-29 23:59:51 UTC
When the objective is a specific object, allow players to "ctrl + click" on the hint icon to lock the target objective.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-10-30 00:30:35 UTC
I shudder to think of the amount of work revamping the mission system is going to require, but this is a good first step. Onwards!

"Wow, that internet argument completely changed my fundamental belief system," said no one, ever.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#35 - 2014-10-30 00:44:26 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
wrong thread Oops

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-10-30 01:01:00 UTC
This is very nice, I think it will help keep mission runners on multiple toons from having to keep the mission log open just so they dont forget what they were doing on that toon. I'd -like- if it displayed the destination system for that leg too, but beggars and choosers.
Markius Proxim
Deadspace Knights
#37 - 2014-10-30 01:44:03 UTC
Please rename to EvE to WoW or all the other failed MMOs after wow.... Oops

j/k i'll uninstall and find some other game that requires brain power and promotes an intelligent player base, k thanks.
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-10-30 01:44:45 UTC
+1 its a start, hopefully this will to an overhaul of all missions , love to see more missions added to the game more variety Smile

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Robert Parr
Iron Tiger T3 Industries
#39 - 2014-10-30 02:18:51 UTC
A suggestion.... would you maybe please consider a mission counter that would tell you how many missions until the next storyline mission??? Is that possible??
Gisander
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2014-10-30 07:17:43 UTC
Good work. Like it in general.

Answering the question of what info should and should not be handed to the players on a silver platter:
I think this is a great opportunity for some extra immersion. Only give capsuleers info that their agents would logically have. This can still include pointing to a specific object for destruction for example. Especially if the agent is in contact with the capsuleers and recieves visuals from them.
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