EVE General Discussion

Good the bolded part is the point and intentional. You shouldn't be victimized in real life over anything done here in the game. If newbies are ganking haulers and miners good for them too hopefully they have found their niche in the game.

friends of yours?

Ah the so called silent majority which you cannot prove nor show any evidence of existence. Badposting will always have some sort of retribution for it hence the mocking. Maybe you and the rest of the "silent majority" could learn to post better and things would be different.

Thankfully I'm unconcerned what the Goonie propaganda machine thinks about my posting.

Why don't you try flying around highsec belt to belt and asking the miners and haulers what they think about Code, suicide ganking, etc...? I have, and the overwhelming feeling is that the game mechanics are broken and favor the bad guys.

Very few people display the kind of crusader like mentality you do without having been victimized 1st.

However, pure bleeding heart ideologues who self appoint themselves as saviors of the downtrodden do sometimes exist. Oddly enough, they too tend to come from highly coddled and entitled backgrounds/families/neighborhoods and feel the need (and the right) to "speak up" for us poor, mistreated "minorities" as if we were pets and not people. I know your type Veers, and I despise it.

Back to the point. Your outlook is completely incompatible and at odds with what a game like EVE is. If any player (new or not) can be run out of the game due to legitimate (meaning "within the rules of the EULA") in game actions, that means they didn't have the mental toughness to play the game in the 1st place. You are defending bad choices and weakness.

If you don't like what goes on in EVE, why are you playing this game instead of games meant for people like you? Games that don't allow the kinds of things EVE does.

Well Jenn, I delight in your despising me. Heck, if someone like you had ANY positive feeling for me, I would be unconcerned. That the people who play Eve solely to inflict misery on others despise me is something that I take great pride in, and would hope that it continues unabated indefinitely.

And I completely disagree with your characterization of Eve. Once again you simply ignore any inconvenient facts to reach conclusions that just coincidentally match your pre-conceived notions.

For example - you ignore the existence of rookie systems and the strict griefing restrictions therein, you ignore the broad availability of PvE in highsec, you ignore the infallible CONCORD presence. Literally you ignore the existence of every game mechanic meant to bring a measure of security and safety to highsec, or meant to protect new players.

CCP has already taken multiple steps to protect new players and create a measure of safety in highsec, all measures that I fully support. So perhaps it is you who is playing the wrong game and should look for something else?

so ur mining right.

in a fleet.

ok

and gankers drop in.

surely the miners have drones and stuff?

would it be so bad to take jamming drones as well? (i know this doesnt guarantee safety)

or if ur in a fleet could assign all drones to someone and start alphaing ships.

surely a tank procurer with sevral drones assigned to him can kill an untanked catalyst?

do the miners watch d s-scan? or are they afk?

maybe if they pvpd a bit they would know how to assign drones.

Ther is also no reason not to be on comms in eve. Its available in game free of charge.

If they are getting ganked and not enjoying and cant defend themselves i pity them. but i cannot help them, if i did they would rely on me and still not learn.

they must help themsleves

With respect? You live in a fantasy world IRL. The police don't care about the 'upper middle class' like you are talking about. They react to the squeaky wheels who complain the most. Not to people who get attacked/scammed/robbed and don't talk about it.

You sound fairly young and very naive. Wait a few years and you will realize the world IRL is a lot more like EVE than you think.

You made the claim you provide the evidence.

Another case of somebody else should do something, pretty much the norm for Veers. Which is kind of sad given the scope of the opportunities that CCP have provided.