Crime & Punishment

Veers is quite adept at selectively addressing stuff, shitposting and generally being a terrible person.

So you and Goblin teaming up then?

There you go again. Eve is a game my friend. Those are not real dollars. Isk is not real money. If someone were to scam an Eve player for real money, I would certainly be against that and advocate their banning. But that is not what is happening. Erotica1 himself was very much against people buying PLEX to put towards their Bonus Room bets.

You however keep confusing Eve with reality, and isk with real money. They are not the same thing and should not be.

Values and morality don't get checked at the door of the game. In game actions have real emotional impacts on the human players. Doing really bad things and justifying it as "just a game" doesn't pass my smell test.

New players don't fly 50+ billion isk missioning golems/ravens. So tell us all Veers what is your final solution to the goon menace?

There is still time for you to repent your badposting ways.

E: Go ahead and tell us how the side of justice is on your side when you doxx someone over an internet video game. Or when people call your old employers, threaten your wife, threaten your dog, and threaten you with death threats. Please Veers tell us all how that's justified because we did a mean thing in a video game.

Well, http://evenews24.com/2014/10/27/eve-online-phoebe-pre-game-null-sec-alliance-movements/ is a good start. Your Sov and rental empire is collapsing, the whole "bring everyone into the CFC and set to blue" model is dying. You are actually going to need to PLAY the game now. No more just sitting around making rental fees, the Goons will need to justify their sorry existence.

Oh and no one is talking about blowing up officer fit ships of vets, I'm fine with that. We are talking about stomping new players in ventures, in retrievers, in T1 haulers, and blowing them right out of the game for lolz. That is the kind of sick stuff that I would like to see gone. And that guy you scammed WAS a new player who used a lot of $$$ to get Plex and pay for his ship.

And CCP has already taken steps to combat this garbage - if you chase after the same miner to bump and gank him throughout multiple systems, even though those are legitimate gameplayer choices, CCP calls it griefing and can ban you. They don't say "it's just a game, HTFU." They accept that in-game actions can be used for unacceptable griefing, and therefore disallow them.

But please do spend your time putting 100 mil bounties on me while your alliance crumbles into dust, soon to be nothing but a distant and forlorn memory. Thankfully I think we can find some more decent and ethical folks to replace you.

Goons are dying

Man, thanks for linking that story. Pretty happy ending I would say. ;)

Basically, yes. But understand that I strictly maintain the difference between a PvE player and a carebear. Carebear is not what you do, it's an attitude.

Jenn Aside is a PvE player. Jonah Gravenstein is a PvE player.

Tears Belvar is a carebear.

With that definition of carebear I fully agree with you. I generally refer to carebears as characters who do PVE over PVP and generally avoid PVP. But the difference between that and what you go by is splitting hairs and more or less irrelevant. So yes, people who live as carebears as a mentality are in fact playing the game wrong and I withdraw my argument.